Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!news.szaf.org!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: Kestrel Clayton Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Whither Oxyaena? Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2024 14:04:54 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 49 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: References: <9ef63f8e-ebaa-4d13-9a6d-d8fc7132097a@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="2508"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:wKlHmmtZBkcfj0HXF4WDAWL2TZs= Return-Path: X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id F351B229782; Wed, 04 Dec 2024 14:05:03 -0500 (EST) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 91386229765 for ; Wed, 04 Dec 2024 14:05:01 -0500 (EST) by pi-dach.dorfdsl.de (8.18.1/8.18.1/Debian-6~bpo12+1) with ESMTPS id 4B4J4ubw1591558 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:04:57 +0100 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20EF95F8F5 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/20EF95F8F5; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com id 9E7CADC01A9; Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:04:54 +0100 (CET) X-Injection-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2024 20:04:54 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1/kGgc7MxUQkx4KkzkClMr3twpcqHMtyNquuZ7tcpkDMmqcAgmRrTDg Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <9ef63f8e-ebaa-4d13-9a6d-d8fc7132097a@gmail.com> HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_IN_WELCOMELIST,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 4804 On 04-Dec-24 13:03, erik simpson wrote: > On 12/4/24 9:45 AM, Martin Harran wrote: >> On Tue, 3 Dec 2024 15:49:46 -0500, Kestrel Clayton >> wrote: >> >>> On 03-Dec-24 13:54, Martin Harran wrote: >>>> On Tue, 03 Dec 2024 18:34:31 +0000, Martin Harran >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> [...] >>>> >>>>> Glenn was exceptionally nasty >>>>> to her about the whole thing. >>>> >>>> Bad choice of words ... nothing exceptional about Glenn being nasty :( >>> >>> I presume you meant "Exceptionally nasty even by the exceptionally nasty >>> standards of Glenn." >>> >>> (Glenn's posting history shows decades of slowly growing angrier and >>> more paranoid. I feel a little sorry for the guy, even though I know >>> it's at least partly self-inflicted.) >> >> Towards the end of the 'old' TO, I began to take the notion that Glenn >> might be a sock puppet for Nyikos. Despite some indicators, I didn't >> have enough evidence to call it out and I also doubted whether Nyikos >> actually was capable of being able to maintain such a level of >> subterfuge for so long. >> > I believe Nyikos and Glenn were separate cranks, neither sock puppets of > anyone else. Yeah, my bellyfeel is that they were separate people. Peter Nyikos was already pretty spiteful; I don't know that it would have made sense to create a sock puppet just to be abusive when he was already doing that on main. Besides, Dr. Nyikos clearly wanted to be seen as formidably intellectual, which very much ran counter to Glenn's style. I suppose it's not impossible he rolled a sock puppet just so he could post the occasional smugly lowbrow "Says you" and "Neener neener," but if he had, I doubt he would have been able to resist praising himself with it, or rushing to his own defense when challenged. -- [The address listed is a spam trap. To reply, take off every zig.] Kestrel Clayton "Every normal woman must be tempted, at times, to stoke the fire, host the black mass, and begin eating hearts." — Rose Bailey