Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: The problem with not owning the software Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 00:15:11 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 46 Message-ID: References: <9OCcnRW7grqkbPT6nZ2dnZfqnPUAAAAA@earthlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2025 06:15:12 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="58d9b1fa17f7d078c009d88a2e35560a"; logging-data="3369779"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19pMf7MZ+wM3AcIpWX4VmneqjMlBj+/QA0=" User-Agent: Ratcatcher/2.0.0.25 (Windows/20130802) Cancel-Lock: sha1:7p91oXvYAKS9Va16HETS/BgTmMM= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3629 On Wed, 1/1/2025 2:31 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 16:45:04 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote: > >> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 08:25:01 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote: >>> >>>> I'd bet a decent python script would do it in minutes, with a tiny >>>> footprint and be reliable. >>> >>> Even Microsoft realizes that now. >> >> I presume you're referring to excel now including a python interpreter. >> I don't think it's much of an improvement. > > Obviously Microsoft is expecting its users to think otherwise. And it > wants to charge them for the privilege, so it must be expecting them to > believe it’s an improvement worth paying extra money for. > > So either Python is that much better than VBA, or VBA is that much worse > than Python. Take your pick. ;) > "Python in Excel is available in preview for Education users running the Current Channel (Preview) through the Microsoft 365 Insider Program. It's not currently available for the Semi-Annual Enterprise Channel. It's rolling out to Excel for Windows first, and then to other platforms at a later date. " And like the current Thunderbird rewrite activity, it's based on the notion that "users want New and Shiny" and "abhor boomers and all they stand for". Thus, the desired market demographic, is to shift to the younger crowd, to keep the business running. Python then, is just grabbing at the first shiny thing they can see. There is an expectation that all the users have taken a Python course at least once in their lives. Or, at least the people that count, have. One of the benefits of using Python, is then LibreOffice can add that, and files with scripting can be interchanged. It would solve a certain class of problem we have with Excel, which is the exclusivity of VBA. Paul