Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Rene Lamontagne Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10 Subject: Re: Don't pick on 10 Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2019 09:52:18 -0600 Lines: 62 Message-ID: References: <3gki7etqte708at0ehum349jekp0jvam7u@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net AmqsPJRjLzaqDT1cbddC1wSbLNZxYEoalmt1vzn7R3t7VjiZJ3 Cancel-Lock: sha1:NIoR+AydgN2UCSo29PN8wAMNbLs= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 In-Reply-To: <3gki7etqte708at0ehum349jekp0jvam7u@4ax.com> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3669 On 03/01/2019 9:41 AM, Ken Blake wrote: > On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 15:44:36 -0600, Char Jackson > wrote: > >> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 13:45:50 -0700, KenW >> wrote: >> >>> If you do, your are stupid and not willing to learn. I run it on four >>> machines and 76 years old without ANY PROBLEMS running it. Yes, it is >>> different, but that is like everything else with technology. DOS had >>> different versions, Win 95,98,XP & 7 were different, but I worked with >>> it and LEARNED. When I had to work with OS/2 on my job, I worked with >>> it and learned. >>> So stop being dumb asses and learn ! >> >> For me, it has almost nothing to do with GUI differences, so it's not a >> learning issue at all. >> >> I have a different opinion because in my experience Windows 10 simply >> isn't as reliable as previous Windows versions. > > > You're not the first person I've seen or hard say that, but it's not > my experience at all. I find Windows 10 to be completely stable; I > have no problems with it. > > >> I'm currently burning in >> a new Windows 10 system and I find it shockingly easy to get it into a >> state where currently-running applications continue to run just fine, >> but no new applications can be started. Not Task Manager, not the >> Shutdown or Restart options from the main menu, and nothing else that >> I've tried, such as desktop icons or pinned applications. So I press and >> hold the power button for 4 seconds to force a shutdown, but then when I >> restart the system it hangs. Then I kill the power and do a cold start, >> which is successful. >> >> I previously had an employer-provided Win10 laptop, which exhibited the >> same general issues. Way too easy to get the OS into a state where it >> stops responding, forcing a hard reset. > > > That's never happened here, neither on my computer, nor my wife's. > > >> My colleagues reported the same >> kinds of issues with their laptops. Some of them chose to soldier on >> with Win10 but I requested an upgrade to a Win7 laptop, which >> fortunately was approved. As expected, the stability and availability >> issues disappeared completely with Win7. >> >> I don't doubt that Win10 works for a whole lot of people, but I'd have >> to say that their use model must be very different from mine. It's >> possible that many of those people turn on their PC, do one thing at a >> time, then turn it off. My use model couldn't be farther from that. Somehow I get the feeling that Laptops seem to be more prone to Windows 10 problems than desktops, This is just a guess but heat may be a factor my 2 desktops have never given a problem with any Windows versions. Rene