Path: ...!tr1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.eu1.usenetexpress.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!news.dns-netz.com!news.freedyn.net!aioe.org!peer01.am4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!peer02.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!feeder.cambriumusenet.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!posting.tweaknews.nl!fx34.ams1.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: cyclist mows down woman and her dog, on a zebra crossing. From: Pamela References: <%164G.169453$0S3.29129@fx38.am4> <5e8ad44f-57a9-45d9-9fb8-d8a41f9c50a1@googlegroups.com> <4dbcbe20-814b-45ca-ad0d-30a6e0fa950e@googlegroups.com> <08543be1-0b4e-43a7-bae0-41978d9996ce@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: User-Agent: Xnews/2009.05.01 Lines: 48 X-Complaints-To: abuse@tweaknews.nl NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2020 10:14:46 UTC Organization: Tweaknews Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2020 10:14:28 GMT X-Received-Bytes: 3670 X-Received-Body-CRC: 2069061924 Bytes: 3932 On 17:25 4 Mar 2020, JNugent wrote: > On 04/03/2020 17:20, Simon Mason wrote: >> On Wednesday, March 4, 2020 at 3:34:03 PM UTC, Pamela wrote: >>> On 11:45 3 Mar 2020, Simon Mason wrote: >>> >>>> On Tuesday, March 3, 2020 at 10:23:38 AM UTC, Pamela wrote: >>>> >>>>>> It was here near a pelican crossing. There was a car that was >>>>>> turning right towards the telephone box and the dangerous car >>>>>> undertook it while I was on its inside near the lhs hatched area. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://goo.gl/maps/9AFjzquV26UF1VUu5 >>>>> >>>>> So the offending car moved his road position to the left to avoid >>>>> the car waiting to turn and that caused your accident. >>>> >>>> Correct - it is illegal to overtake a car within the zig zags of a >>>> pedestrian crossing. >>>>> >>>>> Did the car hit you (because you were there already) or you hit him >>>>> (because he pulled into your path)? >>>> >>>> He hit me as he illegally moved left in order to undertake a car that >>>> was turning right. I was already on his inside and he failed to check >>>> his nearside door mirror before attempting the manoeuvre. >>> >>> That doesn't quite answer what I asked. >>> >>> Were you already at the place where you were hit when the car moved >>> left to avoid the right-turner? >>> >>> In other words, the car was not to the side of you nor in front as you >>> approached the place of impact? >> >> We were both travelling at the same speed - 25mph and were side by side >> when he illegally undertook the car within the zig zags on the approach >> to the pelican crossing. > > Your story is changing. Again. I can't see why Simon thinks it's illegal to pass on the left side a right- turning vehicle. Perhaps he believed that his faulty understanding would force traffic around him to do what he wanted. Anyway, he should be grateful his poor roadcraft has landed him up with no more than a broken collar bone. I wonder if he was wearing a helmet and avoided head injury.