Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!4.us.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: VanguardLH Newsgroups: news.software.readers Subject: Re: Ping: BernD - Dialog shows post from wrong newsgroup Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 01:52:59 -0500 Organization: Usenet Elder Lines: 48 Message-ID: References: <1t13ui8d8cdxp.dlg@b.rose.tmpbox.news.arcor.de> Reply-To: invalid@invalid.invalid Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net Edl/bfpwOXMvetM4GYnYGghbvpiKF0hkrVXZoGtexBOIDc1EOK Keywords: VanguardLH VLH811 Cancel-Lock: sha1:wFJXsiP2ygPG0KVdXNu5nGv+59w= User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.41 Bytes: 3353 Bernd Rose wrote: > On Tue, 27th Apr 2021 19:11:17 -0500, VanguardLH wrote: > >> Does Dialog have a "feature" that it completes a thread tree back to its >> parent even when the article is in a different newsgroup when the parent >> is on the same NNTP server? > > If you tell Dialog to "Reconstruct thread" (Online menu), it does so > in the current Newsgroup for the currently selected message. Dialog > traverses the References header and places all referenced messages > into the current Newsgroup. This is a deliberately programmed feature, > not a bug. > > You can also retrieve messages in the "wrong" Newsgroup with Dialog by > retrieving a message by Messge-ID. > > Marcus thought both functions as useful and I wholeheartedly agree. > > HTH. > Bernd (not: BernD, btw.) I don't recall using Reconstruct Thread for that message, but I've used it often enough that it might've happened. Perhaps I saw the thread starting with "Re: " and wanted to see the parent article to show more of the past articles of the thread for whatever reason they weren't showing up in the newsgroup that I visited. I didn't realize Dialog would yank the article from a different newsgroup. I thought it just got old articles from the same newsgroup. When I was figuring the problem, I read up on the NNTP commands. One was the 'article' command which you gave a message-ID as its argument. You didn't need to use GROUP to select a newsgroup because the 'article ' command got the article from wherever it is from the Articles database which also means the 'article' command doesn't show you in which newsgroup was the message. So, if Dialog is using the References header to find the parent articles, yeah, I can see it using 'article ' to rebuild a thread with articles from all over. When I saw how the 'article ' command works (to retrieve an article regardless of which newsgroup it was grouped), I can see Dialog using the same command to reconstruct a thread, and why it ends up with the same results as the 'article' command: articles from any newsgroup. I was baffled on how an article in a different newsgroup ended up showing in another newsgroup. Good thing I get my hair cut short to just have fuzz on my head; else, I'd have fistfuls of hair around my computer chair. Thanks for the information.