Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!E71ZVmjCwpmsRuoQ4BTL1w.user.46.165.242.91.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Freethinker Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Inheritable guilt Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 19:24:51 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: gioia.aioe.org; logging-data="63572"; posting-host="E71ZVmjCwpmsRuoQ4BTL1w.user.gioia.aioe.org"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@aioe.org"; User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.7.0 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.2 Content-Language: de-DE Bytes: 2506 Lines: 39 On 29.03.22 09:33, Thomas Heger wrote: > > Hi NG > > not really 'conspiracy', but possibly this is the right place to dump my > thoughts about this problem. > > As I'm a strikt opponent of something like punishing somebody for other > peoples activities, I'm also against inheritable guilt. > > But the idea itself is very deeply imbedded into western culture, that > most likely nobody sees the problems with that. I'm not aware of a western justice system that practices something like that. Most even go to the extent that collecting debts from someone for his dead ancestors is not easy/impossible, although banks and collection agencies always try that. The only "light" form of it I'm aware of is the one with the sanctions of russioan oligarchs, where their children can no longer use their money, but this is only an indirect form. I would rather say that this philosophy is very radicated in judaism and therefore widely practised among the jews, where the very idea of "revenge" instead of "justice" is at the base of their system. Similar for the muslims. > > So: inheritable guilt is a form of evil and has to be striktly avoided. > > It actually means, to blame newborne childs for something, the ancestors > had done. Another story altogether is with Karma: when one gets born again, he may have some of his sins to still pay for and this explains why some people suffer in life in spite of not having done anything wrong in that life, while others do not suffer in spite of being monsters. But Karma is for the Gods to administer, and not for men.