Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: T i m Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop Subject: Re: If you use a yaml based platform and you like having it available... Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2024 07:24:09 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 110 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2024 07:24:11 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a4063b58f0a9b2c60404891bd68be07d"; logging-data="4012112"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18+wbIcVJ1GmurEXOzN4DQd" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:rQfspIdW06/dgfbLA7dfFgTRk7o= X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 240126-4, 26/1/2024), Outbound message In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-GB X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Bytes: 5959 On 27/01/2024 23:51, Gremlin wrote: > T i m news:up2oq8$3bton$1@dont-email.me Sat, 27 Jan > 2024 11:18:30 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: > >> On 27/01/2024 07:19, Gremlin wrote: >> >> >> >>> One example is my personal rooms automatic climate control; At >>> some point I am going to convert it over to the Arduino so I can >>> control it via bluetooth and an app I'm working on. >> >> This sounds like what Home Assistant can do out of the box. ;-) > > That's good, but, I don't learn much from that. Well, other than how to interface the ESP32 and relay board and how to interface that to the Curtain Controller, then no. ;-) > >> A perfect HA interface example. My electric curtains (an old 'Swish >> Autoglide' setup) are now controlled my HA, one ESP32 and a 4 way relay >> board. The additional hardware excluding the HA host probably cost 10 >> gbp. ;-) > > I hate the idea of wasting one of these micro controllers for something I > can whip up using old school electronic components, though. Except you can't do that can you ... you can't centrally automate, control and otherwise manage those things with just some bits you can knock up? That would be like saying you can build a push cart so why build a kitcar. ;-) > Pet peeve of not > wanting to waste gear? I dunno. I'm not 'wasting gear' though am I, I'm using it? > >>> Due to the fact I can't have the devices metaphorically >>> speaking, on top of each other; it has a 3 degree differential; give or >>> take for a margin of error. >> >> All settable using the full HVAC GUI. > > I have a very simple screen on the board that clearly shows the mode it's > in, temp it's at, temp its shooting for, etc. Sure, like most basic bits of non smart kit. My split AC / air source heat pump also has a display that allows me to see such things and I'm gagging to make the whole thing smart. > No need for a GUI for that. No need for a remote for the TV when you can simply get up, walk across the room, press the buttons, walk back and sit down again. ;-) > >>> So, when the heat for example shuts down; the AC >>> isn't immediately fired up. Likewise if the AC is just shut down, and >>> the room is a little cooler than set to be, the heaeter isn't going to >>> come right up; unless the differential has been exceeded. >> >> All at the touch of a mouse or finger. ;-) > > Once i'm satisfied with the security aspect. I want to make sure I can't > easily break into it down the road and enter settings which would damage > things in the room. That's mostly down to your router though isn't it, if it was 'online'? > I'm not trying to design a stupid IoT that makes the > news for causing a house fire or something, no. Ah, so you don't leave anything in your house plugged in and switched on when not in use? TV, DW, WM, TD, phone chargers, router, HVAC? > >>> The AC adds moisture (energy efficient BS >>> from GE of course) but the electric heater obviously, makes dry heat, >> >> Does it make 'dry heat' or just heat? eg, It doesn't impact the humidity >> either way, apart from raising the dew point? > > > See here: > https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8tVCT3j/ Nice. How ling did the external lubrication last on what looks like Oilite bearings? > > And here: > ide-to-managing-indoor-humidity/> Yeah, like I said, running an electric heater doesn't affect the actual humidity (it can't), just the dew point and the relative humidity (and irrelevant to most non living things). ;-) The de-humidifier we use for drying cloths is in the main bedroom and so we also want to make sure the 'actual' humidity doesn't build up too much (mainly in the winter when we don't have the windows open so long). So HA checks the humidity at 10:30 and if above a threshold, turns the dehumidifier on. If we are having a lay in or are sick etc and don't want the noise (even though it's pretty quiet), I just long-hold button 4 on the pad on the headboard and it turns off the automation (and dh) for that day. If I want to turn the dh back on, I just double tap button 4. Now, 'of course' that means I don't get as much exercise, getting out of bed, turning the dh off, getting back into bed and possibly turning the dh back on later, but if I've had a nice lay-in I might feel more inclined to go out for a walk and get some fresh air and sunlight. ;-) Cheers, T i m