Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: T i m Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop Subject: Re: If you use a yaml based platform and you like having it available... Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2024 00:14:58 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 167 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2024 00:15:00 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7fe3b0e5883b5d298c6a2d793f5e8715"; logging-data="2358846"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19eMR9pCPt3h3ROCF/fSOhT" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:8H0P3J5dSV3+vlJVLL9/4aPwrdQ= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-GB X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 240208-4, 8/2/2024), Outbound message Bytes: 6947 On 08/02/2024 23:23, Gremlin wrote: >> Some people find the job of properly lubricating sintered bearings >> something that only grown-ups know how to do. ;-) > > Awe, how cute. The thing is, most actual grown ups that I've met are > generally self reliant. That's a shame. I've met a much greater range of people. > I haven't met many that require the extensive hand > holding that you do here with HA and ESP. That's hardly surprising, given what you said above. > Yup, no mention of lubricating sintered bearings there that I could see ... > lubricant-chart-1.jpg> Or there? Sorry mate, was either link supposed to support your lack of understanding of the correct procedure re the lubrication of sintered bearings cos if so, it worked? > > It also can be pre-lubricated, which eliminates the need for an external > lubrication system and means less maintenance in the future. Oh, hold on, we are getting close. I wonder if the penny is starting to drop ... ;-( > As with Snit, you opted to talk out of turn. Oh, there is a hierarchy thing going on here is there? You (think) you know best so you have the final word on it? > I'm not going to argue with you > about this. You seem to be trying pretty hard to do just that so far? But as you say, if it's your way or the highway, why *would* you be interested to know the real answer? > I haven't been giving you my own personal opinion on what you > should be doing to lubricate a bearing less than 100mm in size that's > pressed into a housing that lives on a fan that lives inside a unit that > would cost $20 or so to purchase, brand new. But you have mate and you have done that because you haven't ever been told anything different. You have sought out answers that provide 'confirmation bias', not the right one. > It does not make sense to pull > the bearing out. I agreed with you on that (in practice) but that wasn't included when you went off the rails. > You have a different opinion, No I don't, I have the same opinion (on that). > that's fine, but what I did > in that video is backed up by the urls I've shared previously as well as the > ones here. Like I said, 'confirmation bias'. > I even included charts so you don't have to read much, Tim. :) And I have read them and they prove you are still missing the point. > > That heater should be torn down and cleaned annually, or more often if it's > in a dust environment or you have furry critters. 'Should be' under what guidance? Does it state in the instruction book that you *should* strip it downb anually under *any* circumatances? Why do many of these devices have anti-tamper screws and not clips if that was the case? Those bearings 'should be' lubricated for life and that 'life' could well be compromised as things are price engineered. > It collects the crap as > you could see in the video. And as I saw when I was probably 7 years old. > I didn't share the video to claim to be an > expert with electric motors, Not in the video you didn't but that certainly came across in your follow-up conversations. Even to the point of your 'motor mentor' and all the motors you had 'fully rebuilt'. > but, like with scripting; they are not complex > devices. They are to those who don't understand them. And this seems to be part of your issue, you don't seem to be able to understand / accept that some people aren't good at some things and don't know all about some things, even (as in your case) when they think they do!. I CGAF how easy you think coding / scripting / HA is, mate. It's not you doing it, it's me, a non coder. Further, only Apd has actually demonstrated the DO have the skills I lack so I'm yet to see you have any greater skills than me. > They've been around a long fucking time. Irrelevant. > You jumped to conclusions, > Tim. Hardly, you spelled it out clear enough several times and you are still doing it now. That will only change when you *actually* post the right way to lubricate a sintered bearing. If you don't know how to do it, that's perfectly fine as well. It certainly doesn't make you less of a man, just maybe not so much of a tribologist ( << and tell me honestly you didn't have to look that up). ;-) > >I'm the > one who has backed up what you complained about me doing in the video; And what was that exactly? > which > wasn't even the point of showing you the video. I know it wasn't, it was a genuine question posed from the back of the video and that sent you off the rails for some reason? > > Troll someone else, dude. > When I start trolling anyone you will be the first to know, I promise! ;-) So, what I still don't understand is why you insist what you think is the 'best way' to oil a sintered bearing when I have suggested a load of times that it isn't? Is it just because what you have Googles so far hasn't pointed out another way? Ok, do yourself a favour, look up how sintered bearings are made (as it doesn't look like you know from what you have looped so far) and that might give you a clue about how they lubricate ... Cheers, T i m