Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!sewer!alphared!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeds.news.ox.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: Ron Dean Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: CONTRARY EVIDENCE (WASRe: Evide)nce! Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2024 18:29:18 -0400 Organization: Public Usenet Newsgroup Access Lines: 61 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <2bmNN.103520$5Hnd.11405@fx03.iad> References: <86msr8tztx.fsf@example.com> <0kimuihr7sulviejpk5dnrjcduda26f8n0@4ax.com> <86il1wty8k.fsf@example.com> <86le6rvetn.fsf@example.com> <5vl2vilpidbokkqrd0v635aoudh42ql3u2@4ax.com> <0jenvil40oto62hmdksnpgj5ab3m2c0a6a@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="68625"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 13.4; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.1 To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Return-Path: X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id EE70822976C; Thu, 28 Mar 2024 18:25:34 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3E15229758 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2024 18:25:32 -0400 (EDT) id 497A77D121; Thu, 28 Mar 2024 22:29:20 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay.zaccari.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40CFD7D009 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2024 22:29:20 +0000 (UTC) by nntpmail01.iad.omicronmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C45E5E16E3 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2024 22:29:19 +0000 (UTC) id 4F6A81C601A3; Thu, 28 Mar 2024 22:29:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Path: fx03.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail In-Reply-To: X-Original-Complaints-To: abuse@newsgroups-download.com X-NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2024 22:29:18 UTC Bytes: 5564 Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > On 2024-03-28 16:52:50 +0000, Mark Isaak said: > >> On 3/26/24 10:29 AM, Ron Dean wrote: >>> Mark Isaak wrote: >>>> On 3/25/24 10:26 AM, Ron Dean wrote: >>>>> Mark Isaak wrote: >>>>>> On 3/23/24 4:31 PM, *Hemidactylus* wrote: >>>>>>> Ron Dean wrote: >>>>>>>> Mark Isaak wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> [snip >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And what about people for whom theism is their greatest >>>>>>>>> motivator, such >>>>>>>>> as Obama bin Laden? Cynicism seems a rational response. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Are you suggesting that Obama bin Laden is typical of Islam? If so, >>>>>>>> you're probably right. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My apologies to Mark as I just Chez Watted this without realizing >>>>>>> Mark had >>>>>>> originally posted Osama bin Laden and in Ron Dean’s reply Mark’s >>>>>>> spelling >>>>>>> morphed to Obama bin Laden matching Ron Dean’s spelling. I wonder >>>>>>> what that >>>>>>> indicates about Ron Dean… >>>>>> >>>>>> Even without the typo, Ron's reply shows that he is grossly >>>>>> bigoted against Arabs and Moslems. The typo suggests that Blacks >>>>>> and Democrats may be added to the list. >>>>>> >>>>> Here you are so unfair.  It's easy to make accusations and charges >>>>> without even attempting to support them. This in and of itself >>>>> demonstrates your extreme bias and hatred of anyone with a >>>>> point of view, opinion or belief different from yours. >>>> >>>> The support for your bigotry against Moslems is in your own post, >>>> and that bigotry in turn is support for a suggestion of further >>>> bigotry. I must admit that I had not considered the intervention of >>>> a spell-checker. I have never known a spell-checker, uninvited, to >>>> alter text that the user did not type himself. >>>> >>> I asked a question. "Are you suggesting that Osama bin Laden is >>> typical of Islam? If so (if you confirmed) you are probably right". >>> If you failed. I placed the burden on you! (Note here I defeated my >>> spell-checker) >> >> Do you honestly not recognize the overt bigotry in what you just >> repeated? It is really extremely gross and unforgivable. > > All the Muslims that I know (all highly educated women, at the moment) > are perfectly decent people. All of them would be very insulted to be > described as typical of Osama Ben Laden. None of them wear veils. A few > years ago there was a student who did wear a veil, but that was only in > her second when her husband came to join the institute. In her first > year she didn't, and was perfectly happy to have her photo taken (by me) > for a seminar series that my wife was organizing. She likewise had > nothing in common with Osama Ben Laden. > This no doubt is typical of most Muslin people.