Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Davey Zimmerman #274" Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling Subject: Listen to the whining from JH! Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2024 00:06:49 -0000 (UTC) Organization: Transparent Suckpoppets Of NotChud Lines: 58 Message-ID: Injection-Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2024 02:06:50 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1d23af27b4be968b7e2387d7581c87f6"; logging-data="1350571"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/5KoKKCvqeVCSoNBurDxWYSf+Rwh6O0OY=" User-Agent: Xnews/2009.05.01 Cancel-Lock: sha1:toXpqpCfiu3OgXQJli4mXGaC8tU= Bytes: 3674 Another day of Beefy begging, spamming, whining and posting other people's stuff is coming to a close because porn just doesn't watch itself, dammit. But let's deconstruct the first of his whines today. College, as in: how many times has Beefy dropped out and how badly it failed him. "Beefy: In the 22 years between 1988 when I should've gone to college and 2010 when I did, tuition and lodging at Western Michigan University increased 1140% I did the math, to the penny." Of course he didn't show the work or break down the individual costs. Nor was there any mention of grants, aid or ripping off Beth Aultman and other marks and mooching victims. A quick search but by no means authoritive just to get a ball park figure: "The cost of tuition and required fees for in-state students at public institutions was $3,220 in 1988". This didn't include the other expenses like housing, eating and books. It also didn't include grants, student aid and loans. For 2011? "In 2011, Western Michigan University (WMU) reported that a full-time, out-of-state freshman or sophomore would pay $23,270 for the entire academic year. The total cost of attendance for in-state students is $28,753, while the total cost for out-of-state students is $32,216. The net price is the average cost of the university after aid and scholarship funds are discounted from the total cost. For in-state students receiving need-based aid, the net price is $18,641 on average, while for out-of-state students, it is $24,257 on average" So that's 18K after loans, housing and the like. But they are apples and oranges. Even so, 11 times the cost between the two years? Beefy is full of it. "Beefy: The base cost of college was *eleven times higher* in the space of 22 years. It literally doubled every two years, for over two decades, and who knows what it's done since but it sure hasn't gone down." Debunked. Beefy: The reasons for this are myriad but one thing is for certain: Our higher education system is entirely broken, fundamentally based on a stupid, unethical, and losing idea that education should be profitable first and "educational" ranks somewhere below having a half-assed football team and soliciting lucrative international students whose governments pay their (even higher) tuition for them. If you went to school before 1999 and think you've got some argument that changes that reality and validates the notion that these darn kids are just looking for a free ride and they ought to pay their bills because you did, you're an absolute chump and what's more your education was completely wasted as you clearly missed the part about how to think."" The irony. Beefy also leaves out the important parts like how employers would pay your tuition if you went to college after work. I did that myself.