Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jos Boersema Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish Subject: Things are not going too well for Israel Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2024 16:08:24 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 95 Message-ID: Injection-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2024 18:08:24 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6484b794566534abf9e8f46314a200f5"; logging-data="488092"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+cRCS0qVzAiljb9Bfj9J9t" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:IxP+/tB39dMYVijVssYmiLw/afg= Bytes: 6604 title: When the Heck Does the Jewish Messiah Arrive? link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e6cX4blIA0 source: Kabbalah Secrets Someone made a positive comment on a comment undersigned made about why the prosbul is bad (etc etc, the usual I guess). Replying to that (with the usual, as usual I guess ...). @karabean Hello, thanks for your comment. It seems to me that it has never been about "when will he come" but rather "when will Israel finally choose to be 100% with the good, with the laws given by her God". This idea that it is the _moshiach_ who is tarrying, seems to be a Rabbinical invention, possibly by Maimonides/Rambam with his "... though _he may tarry_ I await his coming ...". It is also Jewish tradition, as far as I understand it, that there is always someone ready to fulfill the role of _moshiach,_ and that is not when the *moshiach wants to come* because that is literally *today* but rather when the Jewish people finally will stop going after the gods and ways of the other Nations, and return to the truth, to Justice & Peace, to loving their brothers and sisters as themselves (etc). Also, by the way, only a remnant will return, as per what Isaiah said. This seems to mean that most supposedly Jewish people will be ejected from the Nation of Israel, or by some other method be lost, very possibly they are going to die instead. This is not exactly something to look forward to, for the vast majority of the Jewish people, who apparently are not going to make it, will never give up on rebelling the Torah. There where good arguments made, about why we are now already in the year 6004, because of the erroneous solution (apparently) regarding the 430 year stay in Egypt. The Rabbis have shortened this a lot, resulting in the year count used in modern times. It is a whole topic, and I'm not an expert on it, but it seemed to make sense. Just another facet I guess, which points to the present day as being the time of the Redemption, or the generation of the Redemption. If I where you: don't wait on someone else to stop with the prosbul. They are not going to do it. It is _heter iska_ Rambam and Hillel to the bitter end for them. It seems they will never give up, until the situation overwhelmes them and they are faced with a Redeemed Israel, possibly looking at it from the outside as they made their choices _against_ the Torah. You are on your own with this. Make a loan to a deserving brother or sister (a Jew that is) and reject the Rabbinical lies with their fake money making schemes. Then in the 7th year, cancel it. No Rabbi needed. Their courts are fake. Hillel destroyed the Rabbinical court. There are no Jewish courts it seems (Kairites ? I don't know, maybe), unless you set one up anew. You will have to do it on your own, and hope heaven smiles on you and make you live. Perhaps that will be the Redemption in the end, and you will stand if you do the Torah that is, and want to be good and true and nothing else, forever. Possibly the next round of punishment, which may be 7 holocausts in one event killing perhaps 95% of all Jewish people, will be the shock preceding the Redemption. The Zionists are playing some insanely dangerous game now. They have the notoriously treacherous Americans as their allies, or so they think, and are now basically at war with the entire Middle East. Iran alone is 80 Million persons, Turkey another 80 Million. How will they win this, with almost nothing to show for it in terms of Torah, literally being _against_ the Torah ? Still, it seems their God will fight for them, because they are Jewish and there is an amount of Torah in them, but I don't think they will win ti in the end, but quite to the contrary. Somewhere in the prophets it seems to say, that HKB'H will fight for Israel. Perhaps it will be one of those wars, where Israel will be defeated, but the damage done to their enemies will be shocking and unexpected. I don't know what will happen, but it seems to develop along these lines. The Zionists, and everyone who supports them which at this point seems to be almost everyone (!), are for certain not going to return to the Torah. They will take Israel down and never stop, turn Israel completely into a gentile Nation, with nothing special to offer the world. They are on the way to entirely ruin the Torah, because they can use the power of the State to do it. This power has already demonstrated itself to be capable of overturning Rabbinical opinion against Zionism. So we see how Rabbinical Judaism continues to corrupt itself, step by step it gets worse and worse. In coming centuries, it could end up as bad as the idol religion of west (Roman Empire). It is on the road to nothing. However, humanity has to adapt to being humans and be at peace with each other, because we are not monkeys or other animals. We have technology, and this keeps getting more powerful. It is not possible to survive on Earth with war and tyranny, and this level of technology. It becomes a choice between justice and peace for all and forever, versus war and hell (hell on Earth) and/or possible extinction. Humanity seems to have absolutely no clue about what is going on, completely blind they go on with their ignorance, to the bitter end, it seems almost all if not all Rabbis included, with almost the entire Nation of Israel behind them, or even a complete 100%. A total rebellion of Israel, right at the time when the result should have been achieved. This is the historical cost of not listening to Moshe Rabbeinu. The damage will be great. -- Economic & political ideology, worked out into Constitutional models, with a multi-facetted implementation plan. http://market.socialism.nl