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Le vendredi 4 ao=C3=BBt 2023 =C3=A0 14:36:22 UTC+2, Richard Hachel a =C3=A9=
crit=C2=A0:
> Le 04/08/2023 =C3=A0 13:28, Richard Verret a =C3=A9crit :=20
> > Le 04/08/2023 =C3=A0 12:56, Yanick Toutain a =C3=A9crit :=20
>=20
> > Merci de m=E2=80=99=C3=A9clairer ce point. Si j=E2=80=99ai bien compris=
, pour un relativiste la=20
> > r=C3=A9alit=C3=A9 serait la r=C3=A9alit=C3=A9 per=C3=A7ue
> Non, =C3=A7a, c'est les id=C3=A9alites berkeleyens.
> > alors qu=E2=80=99elle est au-del=C3=A0 de la perception, mais pour eux =
cette r=C3=A9alit=C3=A9=20
> > serait de l=E2=80=99ordre de la m=C3=A9taphysique et donc =C3=A0 exclur=
e de la physique. C=E2=80=99est=20
> > bien =C3=A7a?
> Einstein disait : "je crois en un monde en soi, ind=C3=A9pendant de ce qu=
e=20
> nous appr=C3=A9hendons".=20
>=20
>=20
> R.H.

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