Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cursitor Doom Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,sci.electronics.repair Subject: Re: Favourite Test Equipment Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2024 21:39:25 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 59 Message-ID: References: <9k7j0jlnbhs8qfg5m17pium0835meean83@4ax.com> <660ed343$0$1258343$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <66105e8a$0$3711191$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <97d11j55r5pbf4vk9rpatr6acu9sc0u53j@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2024 20:39:26 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="26f68cec87ae94ab18b4fc02c63bdd06"; logging-data="2416219"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18khhSoPl7jimYa1JIZ3udB6iOZjwFvHZc=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:xHJYPSjCru9n4wG+n36mMsM0YJI= Bytes: 3685 On Fri, 05 Apr 2024 19:37:27 -0700, John Larkin wrote: >On Sat, 6 Apr 2024 00:35:46 +0200, Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund > wrote: > >>On 05-04-2024 23:22, john larkin wrote: >>> On Fri, 5 Apr 2024 16:26:49 -0400, bitrex wrote: >>> >>>> On 4/5/2024 3:49 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>>>> On a sunny day (Thu, 4 Apr 2024 12:20:19 -0400) it happened bitrex >>>>> wrote in <660ed343$0$1258343$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>: >>>>> >>>>>> My most useful old machine dollar for dollar is my 8012B pulse generator! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Nice, real components... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> $50 "not working." It was just a burned-out pilot lamp and dirty controls. >>>>> >>>>> mm 50 dollars, >>>>> even today with people using dollars for wallpaper, >>>>> buys you a nice pulse generator on ebay.. >>>> >>>> It cost $1700 USD in the 1987 catalog, about $4500 equivalent today! >>>> >>>>> 555 timer works fine too >>>>> Or use sox in Linux for all sort of audio, including sweeps: >>>>> https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/howto-sox-audio-tool-as-a-signal-generator.4242/ >>>>> or just use a Raspberry Pi as signal generator: >>>>> https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/newsflex/download.html#freq_pi >>> >>> Our DDG is about $4K, addmittedly over the top for a home lab. >>> >>> http://highlandtechnology.com/DSS/P500DS.shtml >>> >>> I love my beat-up old unit on my bench. Timing and levels are >>> brutally quantitative. >>> >>I bought a Siglent DDS SDG6022X for 1300USD, 200MHz thingie. I knew >>forehand that it could be hacked to 500MHz, so "saved" 3000 USD for 1 >>hours work :-) >> >>https://www.batronix.com/shop/waveform-generator/Siglent-SDG6022X.html >> >>EEVBLOG has hacking details if anyone is interested... > >We bought a few Rigol 300 MHz 4-chan scopes and insisted that they >throw in the 500 MHz upgrade. > >I remember when FFT was an extra-cost feature. Now it's free. Excuse me for being a bit slow on the uptake here, but it seems to me that there are a *lot* of products which are fundamentally all manufactured to the same spec - but then deliberately crippled unless you pay some sort of ransom to have them 'unlocked' as it were. Would that be correct or am I being too cynical?