Path: ...!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!peer03.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!peer03.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!fx04.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jasen Betts Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Trump was right - AGAIN! Organization: JJ's own news server Message-ID: References: <5e9d21a8-b580-41ee-891a-e70e1250f6d2n@googlegroups.com> <79822e40-a7c5-4493-ab16-d17e41283d8cn@googlegroups.com> <4d48c509-ec22-4cc7-8e42-10a56a71e8c8n@googlegroups.com> <3ac2d52c-4f01-43bf-8c48-493ea1cc592cn@googlegroups.com> <5f2fb8ea-ec63-40f6-8954-c8db33c7515bn@googlegroups.com> Injection-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 00:37:07 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: gonzo.revmaps.no-ip.org; posting-host="localhost:127.0.0.1"; logging-data="9872"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@gonzo.revmaps.no-ip.org" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) X-Face: ?)Aw4rXwN5u0~$nqKj`xPz>xHCwgi^q+^?Ri*+R(&uv2=E1Q0Zk(>h!~o2ID@6{uf8s;a +M[5[U[QT7xFN%^gR"=tuJw%TXXR'Fp~W;(T"1(739R%m0Yyyv*gkGoPA.$b,D.w:z+<'"=-lVT?6 {T?=R^:W5g|E2#EhjKCa+nt":4b}dU7GYB*HBxn&Td$@f%.kl^:7X8rQWd[NTc"P"u6nkisze/Q;8 "9Z{peQF,w)7UjV$c|RO/mQW/NMgWfr5*$-Z%u46"/00mx-,\R'fLPe.)^ Lines: 32 X-Complaints-To: https://www.astraweb.com/aup NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 01:00:52 UTC Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 00:37:07 -0000 (UTC) X-Received-Bytes: 3164 Bytes: 3351 On 2022-03-09, Rick C wrote: > On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 12:09:25 PM UTC-5, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote: >> Rick C wrote in >> news:3ac2d52c-4f01-43bf...@googlegroups.com: >> > Not until the cost of storage is considered as well. 100% >> > renewable energy is going to require massive amounts of storage. >> > We are a long, long way from that being economical. >> > >> Wind generators are direct AC grid attached items. Solar requires >> conversion, but not neccesarily storage. Ideally there would be a >> storage "buffer". > > Not sure what you mean. Wind turbines do not directly generate the >50/60Hz AC required for the grid. The rational speed is far to >irregular for that. The power is converted from AC to DC to AC or >sometimes they do a direct AC to AC, but I've not read how that works, >it may just be the same AC to DC to AC with a different label. Possibly something like a cycloconverter. >> Economical? Have you seen the storms this year. Tornados in >> Kentucky in mid December. Freezes in Texas where it rarely happened >> before, if ever. > > That's simply not true. I attended a football game in Dallas once and had to go home because it was snowing and I didn't have clothes warm enough. I guess it depends on your definition of "rare". That's why we work with averages and other statistical measures of climate. Anecdotal extreme cases are a poor way to measure climate. It happened to you once, I'd call that rare. -- Jasen.