Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.bofh.team!paganini.bofh.team!not-for-mail From: Anton Ray Eaks Newsgroups: alt.atheism,rec.sport.pro-wrestling Subject: Re: Semen On The Trailer Park Pissbum Followup-To: alt.eat-shit.and-die.asshole Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2024 13:14:48 -0400 Organization: To protect and to server Message-ID: References: <%SjON.762036$p%Mb.11195@fx15.iad> <17c22d00da46064a$96254$3081049$72dd786b@news.thecubenet.com> <660afc8b$0$1129685$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <660d9859$0$3711207$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <660d9eeb$0$3711189$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <17c2dc96aff8594a$169751$3716115$22dd286e@news.thecubenet.com> <660dc0ca$0$1082214$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <660ed598$0$1129688$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <17c3226fb1a90a02$124401$1768716$6add606a@news.thecubenet.com> Reply-To: tony@the.trailer.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2024 17:14:48 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: paganini.bofh.team; logging-data="2241313"; posting-host="WFF3VewtzZBZNsC8zd9KmA.user.paganini.bofh.team"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@bofh.team"; posting-account="9dIQLXBM7WM9KzA+yjdR4A"; User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.2 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.3 Bytes: 12753 Lines: 238 Ted wrote: > % wrote: >> Skeeter wrote: >>> In article , >>> skeeter@hotmale.com says... >>>> >>>> In article , ted.street@gmail.com >>>> Ted says... >>>>> >>>>> Skeeter wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In article <17c2dc96aff8594a$169751$3716115 >>>>>> $22dd286e@news.thecubenet.com>, precent@yohoo.not says... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ted wrote: >>>>>>>> Skeeter wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In article <660d9859$0$3711207$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>, >>>>>>>>> skeeterweed@photonmail.com says... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In article , ted.road@qmail.com >>>>>>> says... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> In article >>>>>>> , >>>>> >>>>>>> skeeter@hotmale.com says... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In article >>>>>>>>>>> <17c22d00da46064a$96254$3081049$72dd786b@news.thecubenet.com>, >>>>>>>>>>> precent@yohoo.not says... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ted wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <%SjON.762036$p%Mb.11195@fx15.iad>, >>>>>>>>>>> ted.street@gmail.com >>>>> says... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David LaRue wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Ted" wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:wjhON.99871$24ld.78660@fx07.iad: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Voice of Authority wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Why did the Romans crucify Jesus?  Because he >>>>>>> had >>>> become >>>>>>>>>>>>    too woke. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>        --bks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was also a Communist. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus of Nazareth is a figure who is often emulated >>>>>>>>>>> for his >>>>>>>>>> emphasis on kindness, mercy and love, but >>>>>>> many >>>> of his >>>>>>> disciples >> > seem to miss a very large >>>>>>> part of >>>> his teachings in >>>>>>> their attempts >> > to mimic >>>>>>> his virtues. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Many of Jesusâ?? ideas would be considered >>>>>>>>>>> controversial in >>>>>>> the >> > modern world, but his >>>>>>> attitudes >>>> regarding economics >>>>>>> would be >> > especially >>>>>>> radical, >>>> aligning less with the >>>>>>> conservative views of >>>>>>>>>> many of >>>> his followers and more with >>>>>>> the far-left >>>>>>> views we now >>>> call >> > communist. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, the mainstream interpretations of Jesusâ?? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> philosophy seem >> > to ignore or undermine his economic >>>>>>>>>>> ideals, >>>>>>> most often in the >> > interest of preserving >>>>>>>>>>> capitalism.  >>>>>>> American history has given us >> > many >>>>>>>>>>> examples of Biblical >>>>>>> interpretations being used to >>>>>>> excuse >>>>>>> harmful institutions >>>>>>> such as slavery and >>>>>>> attempt to >>>> de-radicalize >> > the image of >>>>>>> popular >>>>>>> figures such as >>>> Martin Luther King Jr. It is >> > only >>>>>>> >>>>>>> responsible that >>>> we separate Jesusâ??  relationship with money >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from >>>> that of any churches who stand to profit >>>>>>> financially from >>>>>>> >>>> more >> > capitalist interpretations >>>>>>> of his words.  >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     We can read stories about >>>>>>> Jesusâ?? emphasis on >>>> communal >>>>>>> practices, >> > like >>>>>>> sharing meals and labor and >>>> starting the >>>>>>> tradition now >>>>>>>>>> referred to as >>>> â??communion.â? We can also see >>>>>>> >>>>>>> that he has a >> > >>>> particular interest in the needs of people >>>>>>> who >>>>>>> his >>>> society would >> > rather abandon such as >>>>>>> women who had >>>>>>> >>>> committed adultery and those >> > with >>>>>>> leprosy or physical >>>>>>>>>>> disabilities.  >> > >>>>>>>>>> He >>>>>>> tells his followers to >>>> forgive their debtors, that they >>>>>>>>>>>>>> should >> > not store up >>>> treasures on earth and that >>>>>>> they cannot >>>>>>> serve both God >> >>>>> and money. In Matthew >>>>>>> 21, he becomes so >>>>>>> enraged by >>>> people using a >> > >>>>>>> temple for economic exchange, he >>>>>>> >>>> starts flipping >>>>>>> tables.  >> > >>>>>>>>>> In Matthew 19, a rich >>>> man approaches >>>>>>> him for instruction and >>>>>>> Jesus >> > tells >>>> him to give >>>>>>> up all his possessions and give the >>>>>>> money to >>>> the >> > >>>>>>> poor. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      â??It is easier for a camel to go through the eye >>>>>>>>>>> of a >>>>>>> needle than >> > for someone who is rich to enter >>>>>>>>>>> the Kingdom of >>>>>>> God,â? Jesus said in >> > Matthew 19:24 >>>>>>>>>>> NIV. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      This notion that a rich person would have to stop >>>>>>>>>>> being >>>>>>> rich in >> > order to follow him is explicitly >>>>>>>>>>> incompatible with >>>>>>> capitalist >> > thinking. Why make >>>>>>>>>>> people choose between >>>>>>> following him and pursuing >> > >>>>>>>>>>> wealth unless he dislikes the >>>>>>> effects of wealth and >>>>>>> hopes >>>> to >> > counteract them in some way >>>>>>> by >>>>>>> encouraging an >>>> alternative lifestyle >> > among his followers? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Despite the context and direct nature of his >>>>>>>>>>> statement, it >>>>>>> seems >> > to be interpreted quite >>>>>>>>>>> differently by many wealthy and >>>>>>> influential >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Christians who have yet to give up their >>>>>>> possessions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Under capitalism, interpretations favored by >>>>>>> rich >>>> people are >>>>>>> given >> > more of a platform. This has >>>>>>>>>>> created the exact type of >>>>>>> hierarchy >> > among Jesusâ?? >>>>>>>>>>> fans that he devoted so much time to >>>>>>> warning against. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> His attempts to redistribute power are >>>>>>> often >>>>>>>>>>> downplayed, and this >> > is interpreted instead as a story >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about how nobody is perfect.  >> > >>>>>>>>>>    SIUE is >>>>>>>>>>> home to a large Christian population, including 20 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Christian organizations, whose members I sincerely hope will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoid >> > such a convenient dismissal of this issue. >>>>>>> All >>>> of us at >>>>>>> SIUE, >> > Christian or otherwise, should >>>>>>>>>>> question the >>>>>>> motivations of our >> > sources. >>>>>>> Information >>>> is never presented >>>>>>> without an agenda, and >>>>>>> it >> > is >>>> alarmingly common for >>>>>>> information to be >>>>>>> presented in >>>> deceitful >> > ways. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      An idea as simple as â??love your neighborsâ? >>>>>>> can >>>> be used >>>>>>> to promote >> > the exact opposite >>>>>>> message. I >>>> hope that any >>>>>>> readers seeking to >> > >>>>>>> understand Jesusâ??  >>>> words will think >>>>>>> critically about >>>>>>> their own >> > >>>> ideologies as well and whether >>>>>>> they >>>>>>> align more closely >>>> with the >> > whitewashed commercial >>>>>>>>>>>>>> version that grants >>>> wishes or the radical >> > >>>>>>> political figure >>>>>>> portrayed in >>>> the Bible.  >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody reads anything this long >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. In fact, the motivation is not to even start >>>>>>>>>>> reading >>>>>>>> it.  Very brief posts, otoh, almost always get >>>>>>>>>>> read. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus (and God) taught those that were willing to learn. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you were unwilling to read a few words, let alone >>>>>>>>>>> books, how do >>>>>>> you hope to learn what was being taught? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus and the New Testament were needed because of the >>>>>>>>>>> many that >>>>>>> were unwilling to learn and follow the simple >>>>>>>>>>> rules of the Old >>>>>>> Testament.  He wants you to understand >>>>>>>>>>> and follow him.  It is >>>>>>> your choice. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ========== REMAINDER OF ARTICLE TRUNCATED ==========