Path: ...!uucp.uio.no!fnord.no!news1.firedrake.org!nntp.terraraq.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko Newsgroups: sci.lang Subject: Re: Analytical truth redefined Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2024 11:57:50 +0200 Organization: - Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4c0b1df8d9096655cb60d20efe543988"; logging-data="817511"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/9A3jqfo3NWG82hcR9+L2A" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:xbVI4IgsO4l8CnwUHyGFDExAf3o= Bytes: 2232 On 2024-03-18 14:42:50 +0000, Stefan Ram said: > Mikko wrote or quoted: >> On 2024-03-18 10:59:44 +0000, Stefan Ram said: >>> Mikko wrote or quoted: >>>> Truth is not a matter of definition. >>> Truth" is a word created by humans, so it must have some >>> definition (which might be implicit in the way it's used). >>> People may not agree upon what exactly is the correct definition, >>> but such a disagreement only shows that it's a matter of definition. >> Definitions only tell which words we can use for the concept. >> They do not tell what is true. > > To "tell what is true" is to give a definition of the meaning > of the word "true". > > To "tell what is truth" is to give a definition of the meaning > of the word "truth". > > Just look at the subject: It says, "Analytical truth redefined". > This clarifies that the thread is about definitions (including > redefinitions) of truth (more specifically, of "analytical truth"). When I say "Sun is now shining here", I am telling what is true but I am not saying anything about the meaning of "true". -- Mikko