Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: shawn Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Some of the stupid people you can have in govt. Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2024 20:43:42 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 43 Message-ID: <0vhu0j1tbtntmuiijjho2ge0igj8k40kck@4ax.com> References: <4bgu0jdjd3bv5rsisf4ku5gano2vdb1ift@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2024 00:43:44 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="119cbd5afeea25dc3a76f52a03eb62b7"; logging-data="1031942"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/5Xb3ucyNQ0I8dOyP7oLt5FuswIJ/tSV8=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:bDpojsXGwQCRuvnibK2losDmynM= Bytes: 3057 On Thu, 04 Apr 2024 17:12:36 -0700, The Horny Goat wrote: >On Wed, 03 Apr 2024 11:50:31 -0400, Ubiquitous >wrote: > >>“After realizing the lack of LGBTQ+ visibility in marine science led her to >>abandon her childhood dream, Nicole Morris decided to re-route her life path >>to try and become a marine biologist, to conserve endangered rays,” a >>description of the film, posted to the National Park Service website reads. >> >>“All I was ever exposed to were documentaries that had the perspectives of >>straight men,” Morris bemoans in the documentary. “As I got older it became >>harder and harder to imagine myself in those films,” she says before later >>adding, “So I had to ask myself ‘was marine science something that a queer >>woman could do?’” > >Which to me is ridiculous. Yeah, I never understood why people feel the need to have someone to look up to in that field that they want to enter. I never considered a career because of who was in it. Only if I was interested in doing that for a lifetime and could I earn a living. I didn't know anyone in my first choice of a field (Chemical Engineering) and still can't name anyone in it. Now the career I did choose had a fair number of women in it (at least at the schools I went to) from the beginning. So clearly women didn't feel that they had to know some female computer science person before entering the field. >Scientifically the value of her work is how it's evaluated by her >profefssional peers, not her gender identity. That's true, but I will acknowledge that depending on where you are you can run into sexism that could work against her. Not everywhere, by any means, but the stories are out there. > >While I appreciate the sciences used to be an all-male domain that was >then this is now and hasn't been the case for a very long time. > >So my response to the question in the last line of your quote is "of >course you can - go for it!"