Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 03:32:42 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: The Alec Baldwin Left Hook Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv References: <1144903136.735583756.202196.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> Content-Language: en-US From: trotsky In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 110 Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.iad1.usenetexpress.com!news.newsdemon.com!not-for-mail Nntp-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 08:32:42 +0000 X-Received-Bytes: 5082 Organization: NewsDemon - www.newsdemon.com X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com Message-Id: <17c9c76353a55c0c$71928$3085566$c4d58e68@news.newsdemon.com> Bytes: 5463 On 4/25/24 2:51 PM, super70s wrote: > On 2024-04-25 19:06:46 +0000, moviePig said: > >> On 4/25/2024 2:01 PM, shawn wrote: >>> On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 17:12:03 +0000, BTR1701 wrote: >>> >>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 3:35:52 PM PDT, "super70s" >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2024-04-23 17:04:10 +0000, anim8rfsk said: >>>>> >>>>>> BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to >>>>>>> the jaw. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12 >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q >>>>>> >>>>>> "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead >>>>>> Barney & >>>>>> Friends and is known for ambush interviews" >>>>> >>>>> They showed it on TMZ Live, from "why did you shoot that girl" to "say >>>>> Free Palestine...say it just once"? >>>>> >>>>> She's gonna ambush the wrong person one of these days, probably from >>>>> her own hood. >>>> >>>> What is it with this thing protesters do these days where they >>>> demand their >>>> target repeat a phrase? They did this to Occasional-Cortex and now Alec >>>> Baldwin-- in both cases they wanted them to recite "Free Palestine". >>>> >>>> Even if Baldwin doesn't believe it, she wants him to just say it. If >>>> you're a >>>> normal person and you watch that, you think, what value is there in >>>> making him >>>> say it? >>> >>> I'm not sure what she intended. I'm sure someone would clip out his >>> just saying the phrase and use that to show more support for Palestine >>> but I'm not sure if that was her point. More likely it's just the hot >>> phrase that can generate clicks so she's using it. After all she can >>> use it as a title to draw in the clicks "Alec Baldwin says Free >>> Palestine!" >>> >>>> Let's say you succeed and he says the phrase. He's only saying it >>>> because you >>>> have hectored and harassed him into saying it and he figures you'll >>>> go away if >>>> he does. He's only saying it because you won't shut up, not because he >>>> believes it. You haven't changed his mind or anything. He's just >>>> repeating a >>>> phrase that you have assigned to him. What do you get out of that? >>>> What does >>>> that accomplish? What's the point? >>> >>> The clicks are all that matters. >>> >>>> They did this during the BLM Summer of Love riots, too. They'd burst >>>> into >>>> restaurants and surround white people eating dinner and demand that >>>> they say >>>> "black lives matter". >>> >>> My response as a nobody who doesn't have a social media following >>> would be to say "Black lives don't matter" just to watch them lose >>> their minds. Demanding any sort of comment from me isn't going to get >>> the desired response unless I'm in fear of damage to my person. >>> >>>> Leftists seem to take this approach on every issue, in every >>>> situation. It >>>> seems intellectually adjacent to the pronoun stuff with the troons. >>>> You *must* >>>> say the words they want regardless of whether you believe them or not. >>>> >>>> Not only don't they care if you actually believe the words, they almost >>>> *prefer* that you not believe them. Because that shows their power >>>> over you. >>>> If you believed the words, then they haven't really exercised any >>>> power over >>>> you, but if they can make you say shit you don't believe in because >>>> they've >>>> scared or intimidated you into doing so, then they have bright line >>>> evidence >>>> of the power they wield. >>> >>> Power that amounts to nothing in the real world. Maybe it makes them >>> feel good but it is only going to make people turn against them and >>> their ideas. It's like winning the battle at the cost of losing the >>> war. >> >> I doubt there's evidence this is the province of "leftists". > > I understand Jesse Watters started his (in)auspicious career doing > "ambushes" for Bill O'Reilly. Probably supplied him with loofahs too. >> Regardless, I think the idea is that you'll be filmed either "cowering >> and caving to the truth" or "unable even to utter the words". >