Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: moviePig Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: UCLA Allows Protesters to Exclude Jewish Students from Campus Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 18:31:02 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 65 Message-ID: References: <8sg33j19s3iosla7ptfll5pfctsolviera@4ax.com> <0001HW.2BE4030C0161AE13306B9938F@news.giganews.com> Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 03 May 2024 00:31:04 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6520d2817bab71d3d7b187d82eb79a0a"; logging-data="125648"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+txJYz8qt3wnwL7mbsba2Oup9PLR2CBsw=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:zbwp7Bv3ZA6gnS1S0T0EDLN8qKw= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 4301 On 5/2/2024 1:38 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > In article <0001HW.2BE4030C0161AE13306B9938F@news.giganews.com>, > Pluted Pup wrote: > >> On Tue, 30 Apr 2024 22:47:09 -0700, BTR1701 wrote: >> >>> In article<8sg33j19s3iosla7ptfll5pfctsolviera@4ax.com>, >>> shawn wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 1 May 2024 03:50:21 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> BTR1701 wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Pro-Hamas protesters at UCLA started issuing wristbands to people they >>>>>> approve of and barring access to a significant part of the campus to >>>>>> anyone who doesn't have a wristband, specifically Jewish students. >>>>> >>>>>> Here's an audio recording of a phone call from a parent where the UCLA >>>>>> police department admits they're intentionally violating dozens of >>>>>> federal civil rights and equal access laws, not to mention the >>>>>> Constitution itself, by allowing this to happen: >>>>> >>>>>> https://x.com/persianjewess/status/1785191365988811033 >>>>> >>>>> Aren't the police REQUIRED to refuse to follow an illegal order to deny >>>>> someone his civil rights? >>>>> >>>>> Shudder >>>>> >>>>> I feel obligated to wear the yellow armband with star of David in >>>>> solidarity with the Jewish students who are being discriminated against. >>>> >>>> I wouldn't do that but if I needed to get across the campus and the >>>> quickest path way was through their encampment I wouldn't hesitate to >>>> walk through it. All without wearing any sort of arm band marking me >>>> as being with them or against them. >>>> >>>>>> Imagine if a bunch of white kids had seized half of UCLA and were only >>>>>> allowing white people in; excluding blacks from the classes and >>>>>> facilities they'd paid tuition for. Does anyone think the UCLA police >>>>>> and/or administration would be sitting on their hands then? >>>> >>>> Sadly that's all too true. We've been conditioned over the years to >>>> over-react when it comes to the mistreatment of blacks. >>> >>> Going in with force and arresting all the white kids would not be an >>> over-reaction in that case. It would be appropriate thing to do and it's >>> what they'd deserve. What's happening now at UCLA is an appalling >>> *under-reaction* by government officials and the school administration. >> >> Calling out the military whenever there's an accusation of antisemitism >> is an example of overreaction. > > They could have just had campus police come out and pull down the > makeshift anti-Jew checkpoints when they started and made clear that > sort of shit would not be tolerated and if they tried it again, they'd > be arrested. If I remember correctly, antisemitism has been shown to be a particularly virulent, communicable form of racism, capable of corrupting and destroying entire societies. I'm not sure that 'overreaction' would be my first concern here.