Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: FPP Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Nex Benedict Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 08:24:49 -0400 Organization: Ph'nglui Mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh Wgah'nagl Fhtagn. Lines: 232 Message-ID: References: <17bb14f739538d3c$1982$3078224$c0d58a68@news.newsdemon.com> Reply-To: fredp1571@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 12:24:50 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="bd0c541618a287d785fece4b76c3ffe4"; logging-data="3799247"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18k81yuO9SfBOFFaE0uEbDO" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:8//ssdD9slhsdhOXwWIVGFa6veI= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 13430 On 3/10/24 2:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > In article , FPP > wrote: > >>> On 3/8/24 8:40 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>> In article , FPP >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 3/6/24 12:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>> In article , FPP >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3/4/24 1:58 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2024 at 5:56:21 AM PST, "FPP" wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Republicans themselves said this is the most far reaching bill, and >>>>>>>>> includes everything they've been asking for for 20 years. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The week Biden took office, he issued 94 executive orders to open the >>>>>>>> border and stand down enforcement of immigration law. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Until Biden rescinds those EOs, any claims he makes that he wants to >>>>>>>> address illegal immigration are nothing but lies. >>>>>> >>>>>>> So answer his question. What was in the bill that was bad? >>>>>> >>>>>> I already did an in-depth analysis of this abomination several weeks >>>>>> ago, which you completely ignored and only responded to by insulting >>>>>> Trump as per usual. Why should I do it all again just for you to ignore >>>>>> it again? >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh, hell, hope springs eternal and it's easy to copy and paste so here >>>>>> goes: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The Republicans got most of what they wanted and that still wasn't >>>>>>> good enough >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course it wasn't good enough. And I don't know who you're referring >>>>>> to specifically by 'the Republicans' but anyone who isn't a RINO got >>>>>> next to nothing from this bill with regard to border security. And >>>>>> that's being generous. >>>>>> >>>>>> Even as hundreds of thousands of illegals stream across the border >>>>>> every >>>>>> month, including thousands of gang members recently kicked out of >>>>>> prison >>>>>> in places like El Salvador, looking for a friendlier place to commit >>>>>> their crimes, this 'border deal' would have done absolutely nothing to >>>>>> secure the border. >>>>>> >>>>>> First, it's important to emphasize that no 'border deal' is >>>>>> necessary in >>>>>> the first place. Under existing law, including the Immigration and >>>>>> Nationality Act of 1952, the president of the United States has the >>>>>> authority to turn every single illegal alien away at the border if he >>>>>> determines it's necessary to safeguard the country, to include >>>>>> refugees. >>>>>> There is no requirement that we entertain millions of fraudulent asylum >>>>>> claims-- or even legitimate asylum claims, as rare as those may be. >>>>>> >>>>>> There is no legal requirement that we allow a single non-citizen into >>>>>> this country. Period. >>>>>> >>>>>> All that's necessary to secure the border is for the president of the >>>>>> United States to start doing his damn job and enforcing the law, to >>>>>> start using the power that he *already* legitimately and >>>>>> constitutionally has. It doesn't need to be complicated. We just >>>>>> need to >>>>>> start enforcing existing laws as they stand. >>>>>> >>>>>> But if the White House actually adopted this simple and straightforward >>>>>> solution, two things would happen: >>>>>> >>>>>> (1) The Democrat Party would lose out on millions of future loyal >>>>>> voters >>>>>> once the next stage of their plan is implemented: the 'path to >>>>>> citizenship' for all the illegals we let in and who now will be >>>>>> described as leading an 'unfair' twilight existence in our society >>>>>> which >>>>>> can only be solved by making them citizens. Democrats' longstanding >>>>>> plans for demographic replacement at the polls would be stymied. >>>>>> >>>>>> (2) Congress would miss out on a chance to launder hundreds of millions >>>>>> of dollars and Congress never misses out on an opportunity like that. >>>>>> >>>>>> So here we are. >>>>>> >>>>>> The bill proposed in the Senate would allocate another $60 billion >>>>>> dollars in military aid to Ukraine and $14 billion to Israel. (We >>>>>> already give Israel billions every year-- what have they been doing >>>>>> with >>>>>> that? Where has that money gone that we need to dump $14 billion >>>>>> more on >>>>>> their doorstep?) That's a grand total of $74 billion going to secure >>>>>> the >>>>>> borders of other countries. By comparison, the bill only allocates $20 >>>>>> billion for U.S. border security. >>>>>> >>>>>> So to restate for the slow kids in the back of the room: Our leaders >>>>>> are >>>>>> proposing to spend roughly 400% more on securing the borders of two >>>>>> other foreign countries than they are on securing the border of our own >>>>>> country. >>>>>> >>>>>> And it gets worse. Because even the money that's supposedly going for >>>>>> our border security will actually in practice only facilitate the entry >>>>>> of millions of more illegal aliens into the U.S. Specifically, the bill >>>>>> allocates $2.3 billion for something called "refugee and entry >>>>>> assistance activities" by giving "grants or contracts to qualified >>>>>> organizations and non-profit entities to provide culturally and >>>>>> linguistically appropriate services, including housing, medical, and >>>>>> legal assistance and ease management assistance". (Ease management >>>>>> assistance? WTF? Why am I paying for that?) So that's more than two >>>>>> billion dollars to the left-wing 'non-profit' organizations that exist >>>>>> principally to find ways to sneak as many illegals into this country as >>>>>> possible. >>>>>> >>>>>> By doing so, this bill actually creates more incentives for illegals to >>>>>> come here in the first place. >>>>>> >>>>>> One of the highlights of the bill is that it requires the Executive >>>>>> Branch to close the border on an emergency basis if the number of >>>>>> illegal entries exceeds 5000 in one week or 8500 in one day. >>>>>> >>>>>> Except the bill also gives Joe Biden the authority to waive this >>>>>> emergency requirement at any time at his discretion. So of course it >>>>>> will never be enforced. He and DHS Secretary Mayorkas could effectively >>>>>> just ignore this entire section of the law if it were passed. >>>>>> >>>>>> The bill also doesn't count unaccompanied minors from countries other >>>>>> than Mexico and Canada toward the totals necessary for border closings. >>>>>> In other words, a significant percentage of illegals from Haiti, Cuba, >>>>>> Honduras, Pakistan, China, etc. simply don't count. We could have >>>>>> 20,000 >>>>>> of those show up in one day and it wouldn't count. >>>>>> >>>>>> And on top of that, the bill doesn't *actually* close the border, even >>>>>> if this fraudulent 5000-illegal threshold is reached. Per one of the >>>>>> bill's co-authors, Senator Chris Murphy: "The bill contains a >>>>>> requirement that the president funnel asylum claims to the land >>>>>> ports of >>>>>> entry when more than 5000 people cross in a day. The border never >>>>>> closes >>>>>> but claims must be processed at the ports." >>>>>> >>>>>> So basically even if these arbitrary numbers are reached, the border >>>>>> never closes. The illegals are just re-directed to processing centers >>>>>> where they are then let into the country. It's a complete scam by >>>>>> design. And a scam that's designed to last for a long time, given the >>>>>> bill's 3-year sunset provision. The idea being that if Trump does get >>>>>> re-elected, he'd be bound by the terms of this deal and couldn't do >>>>>> crazy things like ACTUALLY shut down the border and stop this >>>>>> never-ending firehose of illegals. >>>>>> >>>>>> In one key respect, this bill would actually *lessen* the >>>>>> already-minimal standards for allowing illegals into the country. Right >>>>>> now, people applying for asylum need to show "a significant possibility >>>>>> that they can establish a credible fear of persecution on the basis of >>>>>> race, national origin, political beliefs, etc." Not a high standard. It >>>>>> doesn't require them to provide any actual evidence of their claims. >>>>>> Just make a claim, which they've been coached to say and which they've >>>>>> rehearsed, and then get into the country. But this border bill would >>>>>> lower that standard even further, if that's possible, from a >>>>>> "significant" possibility of persecution to merely a "reasonable" >>>>>> possibility of persecution. And reasonable is just another way of >>>>>> saying >>>>>> 'plausible'. In other words, it's a bar that anyone from anywhere can >>>>>> clear. There's no way that anyone claiming asylum will ever get turned ========== REMAINDER OF ARTICLE TRUNCATED ==========