Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: vallor Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: GuhNoo: World's Biggest Technical Leecher Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2024 00:12:51 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: <17c4f19671a3bb07$1$2544727$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <6jod1j1dauo5kame001bjf764l70g39o3s@4ax.com> <811e1j9ho4ho8rq55n3vrtsriqrhieco4k@4ax.com> <9k2e1jd7qqo27t930m1g3k8beu5j7m58gg@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2024 02:12:51 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0b537db9a4a6e0548a6ab26019d9e678"; logging-data="1333986"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19iebIjYlMX+QXSmUq4v8/P" User-Agent: Pan/0.157 (Mariinka; 1e36d04 gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/pan.git; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cancel-Lock: sha1:R+Z1WAAxKVphht+TG0kxXV61dag= X-Face: \}2`P"_@pS86<'EM:'b.Ml}8IuMK"pV"?FReF$'c.S%u9 wrote in <9k2e1jd7qqo27t930m1g3k8beu5j7m58gg@4ax.com>: > chrisv wrote: >>Joel wrote: >>> some dumb fsck wrote: >>>> >>>> (idiocy and lies snipped) >>> >>> Ridiculous. >> >>That shameless jackass doesn't deserve a response. He's self-nuking. > > > I wouldn't dispute that, but it is worth saying again that the > community has achieved something beyond just copying Unix. I think the only commercial UNIX®️ around now is MacOS. I think Linux has kind of carved its own niche at this point, it's a POSIX OS, a "Unix" with many useful extensions. Hell, we relied on Linux's superior fork(2) (to SunOS) COW implementation on our RADIUS servers -- in 1992. Each RADIUS request was fork'ed, carrying along with it the entire user database...only, the OS just marked those pages copy-on-write, so there was no copying the entire memory space for the new process. (SunOS _did_ have vfork(), but Linux's fork(2) was still better.) Linus may have stood on the shoulders of giants, but he is a genius, no doubt. When we picked Linux to base our services on, we picked a winner -- and it's _everywhere_ now. It's infrastructure: RADIUS servers, DHCP servers, routers, name servers -- hell, it's on my _phone_. ("But muh desktop runs Windows!" -- well, good for you.) -- -v