Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: moviePig Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Man strikes back against Seaside California order with boat mural Date: Tue, 14 May 2024 17:47:01 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 61 Message-ID: References: <20240513170449.000014ff@example.com> Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 14 May 2024 23:47:02 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1fc6a22e3e780876bb90be025b106293"; logging-data="438853"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX182qEZHmqF64jdB5izEY/lDU6mis+syuYI=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:mZXaCV75XwOa0V3+4iMRPBU7k4Y= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3912 On 5/14/2024 1:41 AM, BTR1701 wrote: > In article , > moviePig wrote: > >> On 5/13/2024 7:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>> In article , >>> moviePig wrote: >>> >>>> On 5/13/2024 6:36 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>> In article , >>>>> moviePig wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 5/13/2024 5:04 PM, Rhino wrote: >>>>>>> On Mon, 13 May 2024 20:49:19 -0000 (UTC) >>>>>>> "Adam H. Kerman" wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm guessing that Seaside California is on the ocean and lots of >>>>>>>> residents own boats? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A man had his boat on his property. He was told that municipal code >>>>>>>> required him to install a 6 foot tall fence around it to comply with >>>>>>>> code. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> He built the fence then painted a realistic mural of a boat on the >>>>>>>> fence. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Man strikes back against Seaside order with boat mural >>>>>>>> by Torstein Rehn >>>>>>>> KSBW-TV News Channel 8 >>>>>>>> Updated: 1:22 PM PDT May 13, 2024 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I didn't see anything in the article explaining WHY he had to have a >>>>>>> fence around his boat. Is this a case of "Because we said so!" or is >>>>>>> there a sensible reason for the policy? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As for the fence he built, it's brilliant! We should all do that when >>>>>>> faced with unjust laws and rules: either fight them (if we can) or mock >>>>>>> them. >>>>>> >>>>>> A mural of a boat is likely less of an eyesore than an actual boat. And >>>>>> if somehow it weren't, it probably runs afoul of other community codes. >>>>> >>>>> But community codes are subordinate to the 1st Amendment. A boat isn't >>>>> speech but a mural of a boat *is* speech and community codes will have >>>>> to do a lot of heavy lifting to overcome the law's heavy presumption in >>>>> favor of protecting speech. >>>> >>>> In this instance, the mural would seem to be "speech" only to the extent >>>> that it argues against the ordinance it's responding to. >>> >>> Doesn't matter why it's speech or what it's trying to say. The >>> government isn't allowed to restrict speech based on content or the >>> speaker's message. >> >> Your 3-year-old's random finger-painting isn't "speech". > > It is with regard to government censorship. Even 3-year-olds have rights. Of course it isn't, assuming he used more than his middle finger.