Path: ...!news.nobody.at!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: super70s Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: The Alec Baldwin Left Hook Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 14:51:27 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 87 Message-ID: References: <1144903136.735583756.202196.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 21:51:29 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8f0c1871b891df918c6cf1ea409ae39f"; logging-data="3353323"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18nGG/69IR4k+UAW+SjOeU5qHjheptJq7Y=" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:SZ0bmT+mqCH95Z0+2NbpPE7BiSM= Bytes: 5196 On 2024-04-25 19:06:46 +0000, moviePig said: > On 4/25/2024 2:01 PM, shawn wrote: >> On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 17:12:03 +0000, BTR1701 wrote: >> >>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 3:35:52 PM PDT, "super70s" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2024-04-23 17:04:10 +0000, anim8rfsk said: >>>> >>>>> BTR1701 wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the jaw. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q >>>>> >>>>> "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead Barney & >>>>> Friends and is known for ambush interviews" >>>> >>>> They showed it on TMZ Live, from "why did you shoot that girl" to "say >>>> Free Palestine...say it just once"? >>>> >>>> She's gonna ambush the wrong person one of these days, probably from >>>> her own hood. >>> >>> What is it with this thing protesters do these days where they demand their >>> target repeat a phrase? They did this to Occasional-Cortex and now Alec >>> Baldwin-- in both cases they wanted them to recite "Free Palestine". >>> >>> Even if Baldwin doesn't believe it, she wants him to just say it. If you're a >>> normal person and you watch that, you think, what value is there in making him >>> say it? >> >> I'm not sure what she intended. I'm sure someone would clip out his >> just saying the phrase and use that to show more support for Palestine >> but I'm not sure if that was her point. More likely it's just the hot >> phrase that can generate clicks so she's using it. After all she can >> use it as a title to draw in the clicks "Alec Baldwin says Free >> Palestine!" >> >>> Let's say you succeed and he says the phrase. He's only saying it because you >>> have hectored and harassed him into saying it and he figures you'll go away if >>> he does. He's only saying it because you won't shut up, not because he >>> believes it. You haven't changed his mind or anything. He's just repeating a >>> phrase that you have assigned to him. What do you get out of that? What does >>> that accomplish? What's the point? >> >> The clicks are all that matters. >> >>> They did this during the BLM Summer of Love riots, too. They'd burst into >>> restaurants and surround white people eating dinner and demand that they say >>> "black lives matter". >> >> My response as a nobody who doesn't have a social media following >> would be to say "Black lives don't matter" just to watch them lose >> their minds. Demanding any sort of comment from me isn't going to get >> the desired response unless I'm in fear of damage to my person. >> >>> Leftists seem to take this approach on every issue, in every situation. It >>> seems intellectually adjacent to the pronoun stuff with the troons. You *must* >>> say the words they want regardless of whether you believe them or not. >>> >>> Not only don't they care if you actually believe the words, they almost >>> *prefer* that you not believe them. Because that shows their power over you. >>> If you believed the words, then they haven't really exercised any power over >>> you, but if they can make you say shit you don't believe in because they've >>> scared or intimidated you into doing so, then they have bright line evidence >>> of the power they wield. >> >> Power that amounts to nothing in the real world. Maybe it makes them >> feel good but it is only going to make people turn against them and >> their ideas. It's like winning the battle at the cost of losing the >> war. > > I doubt there's evidence this is the province of "leftists". I understand Jesse Watters started his (in)auspicious career doing "ambushes" for Bill O'Reilly. > Regardless, I think the idea is that you'll be filmed either "cowering > and caving to the truth" or "unable even to utter the words".