Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: Lisp history: IF, etc. Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 22:09:24 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <86h6gjpq3i.fsf_-_@williamsburg.bawden.org> <86cyr6pb2l.fsf@williamsburg.bawden.org> <875xwy412p.fsf@nightsong.com> <868r1up0wk.fsf@williamsburg.bawden.org> <871q7m3wrj.fsf@nightsong.com> <86zfu9ooux.fsf@williamsburg.bawden.org> <87frw03b4j.fsf@nightsong.com> <877chbfs00.fsf@yaxenu.org> <87r0f61jkb.fsf@nightsong.com> <87il0iynlu.fsf@nightsong.com> <87edb5yxn5.fsf@nightsong.com> <87a5lszqvp.fsf@nightsong.com> <875xwgzal9.fsf@nightsong.com> <87pluondm6.fsf@bsb.me.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 00:09:24 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ec6fcf3bb75b95711759fde7cd91a1dc"; logging-data="1929785"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/SelU1vr/HvJ3IGH08CAOE" User-Agent: Pan/0.155 (Kherson; fc5a80b8) Cancel-Lock: sha1:n1HfV2cb1Lj8Fzbo7gbonemRUH4= Bytes: 2280 On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 17:44:01 +0100, Ben Bacarisse wrote: > SNOBOL's patterns were much more "procedural" than REs. For example, > you could implement Russell's paradox in SNOBOL: a pattern that matches > only those patterns that don't match themselves. I would expect a paradox like that to behave the same way it does when expressed in λ-calculus: get stuck in an endless loop. Mathematicians seem to be scared of paradoxes. But if you realize that they are just equivalent to endless loops in a computation, which is something we deal with all the time in Comp Sci, then they are no longer so scary.