Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 16:39:58 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2024 23:39:59 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="67b7f7627796a54042c2cc3f85269897"; logging-data="2794556"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1++hREFnPIu/S+4b6fckeFndAdEBcrMCIY=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:blDhpe/BeHOgZbSUXQ4s3fMmel8= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2734 On 2024-04-01 4:01 p.m., Wolf Greenblatt wrote: > On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 11:08:28 +1300, Your Name wrote: > >>> This is the relevant part of the article. There will not be encryption >>> between Android and iOS users. The DOJ says Apple can make it happen >>> but are unwilling to. >> >> More know-nothing bollocks from the US DOJ. Just read note A. above, >> Apple is already planning to support RCS, in some form. > > Apple has no plans to fully support RCS end-to-end encryption. > That's what the DOJ suit is partially about. Well that's just false. > >>> If this is true then it looks like Apple is being the petulant child >>> stamping their feet and saying "no, no, no..." >>> >>> "So unlike iMessaging between iPhone users or Google Messaging between >>> Android users, or more importantly WhatsApping between iPhone and >>> Android users, RCS between iPhone and Android will not have that level >>> of security." >> >> Wrong ... > > Only the nut cases think Apple actually cares about them or their privacy. > >> "Apple stated it will not use any type of proprietary >> end-to-end encryption – presumably referring to Google's >> approach — but did say it would work to make end-to-end >> encryption part of the RCS standard." > > Apple does not want anyone, not even their own customers, to have the > privacy of RCS end-to-end encryption between Apple and Android users. You've literally just quoted them saying they would allow it.