Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!news.mixmin.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Anonymous Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2024 22:48:14 -0400 Organization: Mixmin Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2024 02:48:17 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: news.mixmin.net; posting-host="c4af4a3027e8317d29ea238d8aa6bb2f616aa3fc"; logging-data="500374"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@mixmin.net" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 7071 Lines: 147 Alan wrote: > On 2024-04-13 22:23, Anonymous wrote: >> Chris wrote: >>> Anonymous wrote: >>>> Chris wrote: >>>>> Anonymous wrote: >>>>>> Chris wrote: >>>>>>> Anonymous wrote: >>>>>>>> Chris wrote: >>>>>>>>> Anonymous wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Java Jive wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 04/04/2024 01:58, Hank Rogers wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So is trump. They are much alike and have never done anything wrong. >>>>>>>>>>>> Ever. >>>>>>>>>>>> Neither has ever committed a crime or screwed a customer or business >>>>>>>>>>>> partner. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That is provably untrue, in that Trump has already lost two civil cases, >>>>>>>>>>> wherein one of which a jury found him to be a rapist  -  in most >>>>>>>>>>> civilised >>>>>>>>>>> people's view, that is both committing a crime and screwing someone. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Losing a civil case is not the same as a criminal conviction. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The claim was the he "never done anything wrong". Losing a civil case is a >>>>>>>>> clear case of doing something wrong. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No it's not. Anyone can sue anyone for anything. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And? If the court finds against you you've legally done something wrong. >>>>>> >>>>>> Not morally. >>>>> >>>>> Are you saying that Trump has never done anything morally wrong? You've >>>>> completely lost any sense of reality. >>>>> >>>>> At the very least he cheated on two of his wives. He sexually assaulted one >>>>> woman (probably more) and he defrauded several banks and the IRS. >>>> >>>> If he legitimately "knife to the throat" raped women, >>> >>> What the fuck does that mean? >>> >>>> then why wasn't >>>> he criminally prosecuted? >>> >>> Like you said yourself the US system doesn't provide justice, especially >>> against rich, powerful men. Sexual assault hasn't been treated well by the >>> CJS for a long time. >> >> Well, you probably think Jacqueline Coakley was telling the truth. LOL! >> >> Forget accusations, most rape _convictions_ are false. >> >>>> If he defrauded the IRS, was he criminally >>>> charged? >>> >>> Not yet. Here's hoping... >>> >>>>>> The legal system very rarely has anything to do with >>>>>> actual justice. >>>>> >>>>> In the US, I agree. You've got the system you all wanted. >>>>> >>>>>>> Also the state DA isn't just anyone and fraud or defamation aren't just >>>>>>> anything. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you or I defrauded a bank or insurance company we'd rightly be >>>>>>> prosecuted. >>>>>> >>>>>> Prosecuted under criminal statutes, not sued under civil. >>>>> >>>>> Why? Civil law is just as important. >>>> >>>> Standards of proof in the civil system is not as rigorous as that >>>> in the criminal system. >>> >>> Still evidence of wrongdoing. >>> >>>>>>> Why should it be any different for Trump? >>>>>> >>>>>> Nobody is saying it should be. >>>>> >>>>> That's not true. You're saying he's done nothing wrong and shouldn't face >>>>> trial. The courts should decide. >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Everyone is NYC has known for decades what kind of crook he is. If it >>>>>>>>> wasn't for the hundreds of millions of dollars he got from Fred he'd just >>>>>>>>> be pretty street criminal. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Further, he faces 91 further criminal charges in 4 separate cases, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> All politically-motivated persecutions. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lol. I love how the right are strong on law and order until one of their >>>>>>>>> own is found wanting in that dept. Then it's "persecution". Hypocrites the >>>>>>>>> lot of them. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How people for that, I don't know. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I want order. After that, we can have law. Instead, we have politically- >>>>>>>> motivated persecutions for made-up crimes, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Federal law and election law are made up now, are they? The right were >>>>>>> desperate for Biden to be arrested for exactly the same as Trump. Again, >>>>>>> it's one rule for you and different rules for others. That's not how fair >>>>>>> society works. >>>>>> >>>>>> There are countless laws that literally invent crimes and proscribe >>>>>> punishments when there is no concrete harm being done to anyone or >>>>>> anything. >>>>> >>>>> Countless, really? Examples. >>> >>> Notable you didn't answer this. >> >> All laws that punish mere possession of firearms by peaceable men, for one, >> if you really want to get into that debate. >> >> Also, Bragg hasn't told us what underlying felony Trump allegedly committed. > > Sure he has. No he hasn't. > It is literally in the indictments. > > > > I'll give you one example: > > 'THE GRAND JURY OF THE COUNTY OF NEW YORK, by this indictment, accuses the > defendant of the crime of FALSIFYING BUSINESS RECORDS IN THE FIRST DEGREE , in > violation of Penal Law §175.10, committed as follows: The defendant, in the > County of New York and elsewhere, on or about February 14, 2017, with intent to > defraud and intent to commit another crime and aid and conceal the commission > thereof, made and caused a false entry in the business records of an enterprise, > to wit, an invoice from Michael Cohen dated February 14, 2017, marked as a > record of the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, and kept and maintained by the > Trump Organization.' > > That's a FELONY, doofus. > > There are 33 more listed there. Those are upgraded misdemeanors, because there is allegedly an UNDERLYING felony. Show us the UNDERLYING felony.