Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Hank Rogers Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2024 17:25:25 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 190 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 00:25:27 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="db25f91a032aa203264a7415fcb6e91e"; logging-data="1247639"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/a7RJ6OlQA0voBVXFqjB+ievSO3BcUVlE=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:coYkV4h0+8fAmfX9MzypU7oWExo= In-Reply-To: Bytes: 8813 Alan wrote: > On 2024-04-15 22:09, Anonymous wrote: >> Alan wrote: >>> On 2024-04-14 19:48, Anonymous wrote: >>>> Alan wrote: >>>>> On 2024-04-13 22:23, Anonymous wrote: >>>>>> Chris wrote: >>>>>>> Anonymous wrote: >>>>>>>> Chris wrote: >>>>>>>>> Anonymous wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Anonymous wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Anonymous wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Java Jive wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 04/04/2024 01:58, Hank Rogers wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So is trump. They are much alike and have never done >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything wrong. Ever. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neither has ever committed a crime or screwed a customer or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> business partner. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is provably untrue, in that Trump has already lost two >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> civil cases, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wherein one of which a jury found him to be a rapist  - in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most civilised >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people's view, that is both committing a crime and screwing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Losing a civil case is not the same as a criminal conviction. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The claim was the he "never done anything wrong". Losing a >>>>>>>>>>>>> civil case is a >>>>>>>>>>>>> clear case of doing something wrong. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> No it's not. Anyone can sue anyone for anything. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> And? If the court finds against you you've legally done >>>>>>>>>>> something wrong. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Not morally. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Are you saying that Trump has never done anything morally wrong? >>>>>>>>> You've >>>>>>>>> completely lost any sense of reality. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> At the very least he cheated on two of his wives. He sexually >>>>>>>>> assaulted one >>>>>>>>> woman (probably more) and he defrauded several banks and the IRS. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If he legitimately "knife to the throat" raped women, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What the fuck does that mean? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> then why wasn't >>>>>>>> he criminally prosecuted? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Like you said yourself the US system doesn't provide justice, >>>>>>> especially >>>>>>> against rich, powerful men. Sexual assault hasn't been treated well >>>>>>> by the >>>>>>> CJS for a long time. >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, you probably think Jacqueline Coakley was telling the truth. LOL! >>>>>> >>>>>> Forget accusations, most rape _convictions_ are false. >>>>>> >>>>>>>> If he defrauded the IRS, was he criminally >>>>>>>> charged? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not yet. Here's hoping... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The legal system very rarely has anything to do with >>>>>>>>>> actual justice. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In the US, I agree. You've got the system you all wanted. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Also the state DA isn't just anyone and fraud or defamation >>>>>>>>>>> aren't just >>>>>>>>>>> anything. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If you or I defrauded a bank or insurance company we'd rightly be >>>>>>>>>>> prosecuted. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Prosecuted under criminal statutes, not sued under civil. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Why? Civil law is just as important. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Standards of proof in the civil system is not as rigorous as that >>>>>>>> in the criminal system. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Still evidence of wrongdoing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Why should it be any different for Trump? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nobody is saying it should be. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That's not true. You're saying he's done nothing wrong and >>>>>>>>> shouldn't face >>>>>>>>> trial. The courts should decide. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone is NYC has known for decades what kind of crook he >>>>>>>>>>>>> is. If it >>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't for the hundreds of millions of dollars he got from >>>>>>>>>>>>> Fred he'd just >>>>>>>>>>>>> be pretty street criminal. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Further, he faces 91 further criminal charges in 4 separate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cases, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> All politically-motivated persecutions. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Lol. I love how the right are strong on law and order until >>>>>>>>>>>>> one of their >>>>>>>>>>>>> own is found wanting in that dept. Then it's "persecution". >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hypocrites the >>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of them. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> How people for that, I don't know. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I want order. After that, we can have law. Instead, we have >>>>>>>>>>>> politically- >>>>>>>>>>>> motivated persecutions for made-up crimes, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Federal law and election law are made up now, are they? The >>>>>>>>>>> right were >>>>>>>>>>> desperate for Biden to be arrested for exactly the same as >>>>>>>>>>> Trump. Again, >>>>>>>>>>> it's one rule for you and different rules for others. That's not >>>>>>>>>>> how fair >>>>>>>>>>> society works. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There are countless laws that literally invent crimes and proscribe >>>>>>>>>> punishments when there is no concrete harm being done to anyone or >>>>>>>>>> anything. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Countless, really? Examples. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Notable you didn't answer this. >>>>>> >>>>>> All laws that punish mere possession of firearms by peaceable men, >>>>>> for one, >>>>>> if you really want to get into that debate. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, Bragg hasn't told us what underlying felony Trump allegedly >>>>>> committed. >>>>> >>>>> Sure he has. >>>> >>>> No he hasn't. >>>> >>>>> It is literally in the indictments. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'll give you one example: >>>>> >>>>> 'THE GRAND JURY OF THE COUNTY OF NEW YORK, by this indictment, accuses >>>>> the defendant of the crime of FALSIFYING BUSINESS RECORDS IN THE FIRST >>>>> DEGREE , in violation of Penal Law §175.10, committed as follows: The >>>>> defendant, in the County of New York and elsewhere, on or about >>>>> February 14, 2017, with intent to defraud and intent to commit another >>>>> crime and aid and conceal the commission thereof, made and caused a >>>>> false entry in the business records of an enterprise, to wit, an >>>>> invoice from Michael Cohen dated February 14, 2017, marked as a record >>>>> of the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, and kept and maintained by the >>>>> Trump Organization.' >>>>> >>>>> That's a FELONY, doofus. ========== REMAINDER OF ARTICLE TRUNCATED ==========