Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Anonymous Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2024 01:09:58 -0400 Organization: Mixmin Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2024 05:10:00 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: news.mixmin.net; posting-host="c4af4a3027e8317d29ea238d8aa6bb2f616aa3fc"; logging-data="734932"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@mixmin.net" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 7713 Lines: 162 Alan wrote: > On 2024-04-14 19:48, Anonymous wrote: >> Alan wrote: >>> On 2024-04-13 22:23, Anonymous wrote: >>>> Chris wrote: >>>>> Anonymous wrote: >>>>>> Chris wrote: >>>>>>> Anonymous wrote: >>>>>>>> Chris wrote: >>>>>>>>> Anonymous wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Anonymous wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Java Jive wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 04/04/2024 01:58, Hank Rogers wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So is trump. They are much alike and have never done anything >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong. Ever. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neither has ever committed a crime or screwed a customer or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> business partner. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That is provably untrue, in that Trump has already lost two civil >>>>>>>>>>>>> cases, >>>>>>>>>>>>> wherein one of which a jury found him to be a rapist  -  in most >>>>>>>>>>>>> civilised >>>>>>>>>>>>> people's view, that is both committing a crime and screwing someone. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Losing a civil case is not the same as a criminal conviction. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The claim was the he "never done anything wrong". Losing a civil case >>>>>>>>>>> is a >>>>>>>>>>> clear case of doing something wrong. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No it's not. Anyone can sue anyone for anything. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And? If the court finds against you you've legally done something wrong. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not morally. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are you saying that Trump has never done anything morally wrong? You've >>>>>>> completely lost any sense of reality. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> At the very least he cheated on two of his wives. He sexually assaulted one >>>>>>> woman (probably more) and he defrauded several banks and the IRS. >>>>>> >>>>>> If he legitimately "knife to the throat" raped women, >>>>> >>>>> What the fuck does that mean? >>>>> >>>>>> then why wasn't >>>>>> he criminally prosecuted? >>>>> >>>>> Like you said yourself the US system doesn't provide justice, especially >>>>> against rich, powerful men. Sexual assault hasn't been treated well by the >>>>> CJS for a long time. >>>> >>>> Well, you probably think Jacqueline Coakley was telling the truth. LOL! >>>> >>>> Forget accusations, most rape _convictions_ are false. >>>> >>>>>> If he defrauded the IRS, was he criminally >>>>>> charged? >>>>> >>>>> Not yet. Here's hoping... >>>>> >>>>>>>> The legal system very rarely has anything to do with >>>>>>>> actual justice. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In the US, I agree. You've got the system you all wanted. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Also the state DA isn't just anyone and fraud or defamation aren't just >>>>>>>>> anything. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you or I defrauded a bank or insurance company we'd rightly be >>>>>>>>> prosecuted. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Prosecuted under criminal statutes, not sued under civil. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why? Civil law is just as important. >>>>>> >>>>>> Standards of proof in the civil system is not as rigorous as that >>>>>> in the criminal system. >>>>> >>>>> Still evidence of wrongdoing. >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Why should it be any different for Trump? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nobody is saying it should be. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That's not true. You're saying he's done nothing wrong and shouldn't face >>>>>>> trial. The courts should decide. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Everyone is NYC has known for decades what kind of crook he is. If it >>>>>>>>>>> wasn't for the hundreds of millions of dollars he got from Fred he'd >>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>> be pretty street criminal. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Further, he faces 91 further criminal charges in 4 separate cases, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> All politically-motivated persecutions. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Lol. I love how the right are strong on law and order until one of their >>>>>>>>>>> own is found wanting in that dept. Then it's "persecution". >>>>>>>>>>> Hypocrites the >>>>>>>>>>> lot of them. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> How people for that, I don't know. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I want order. After that, we can have law. Instead, we have politically- >>>>>>>>>> motivated persecutions for made-up crimes, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Federal law and election law are made up now, are they? The right were >>>>>>>>> desperate for Biden to be arrested for exactly the same as Trump. Again, >>>>>>>>> it's one rule for you and different rules for others. That's not how fair >>>>>>>>> society works. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are countless laws that literally invent crimes and proscribe >>>>>>>> punishments when there is no concrete harm being done to anyone or >>>>>>>> anything. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Countless, really? Examples. >>>>> >>>>> Notable you didn't answer this. >>>> >>>> All laws that punish mere possession of firearms by peaceable men, for one, >>>> if you really want to get into that debate. >>>> >>>> Also, Bragg hasn't told us what underlying felony Trump allegedly committed. >>> >>> Sure he has. >> >> No he hasn't. >> >>> It is literally in the indictments. >>> >>> >>> >>> I'll give you one example: >>> >>> 'THE GRAND JURY OF THE COUNTY OF NEW YORK, by this indictment, accuses the >>> defendant of the crime of FALSIFYING BUSINESS RECORDS IN THE FIRST DEGREE , >>> in violation of Penal Law §175.10, committed as follows: The defendant, in >>> the County of New York and elsewhere, on or about February 14, 2017, with >>> intent to defraud and intent to commit another crime and aid and conceal the >>> commission thereof, made and caused a false entry in the business records of >>> an enterprise, to wit, an invoice from Michael Cohen dated February 14, 2017, >>> marked as a record of the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, and kept and >>> maintained by the Trump Organization.' >>> >>> That's a FELONY, doofus. >>> >>> There are 33 more listed there. >> >> Those are upgraded misdemeanors, because there is allegedly an UNDERLYING >> felony. Show us the UNDERLYING felony. > > You don't understand the law. > > There doesn't have to be an "underlying felony". > > There just has to be an underlying crime that the falsification was undertaken > in furtherance of. Fine, then what was the underlying crime?