Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Chris M. Thomasson" Newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++ Subject: Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this? Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 13:04:57 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 99 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 22:04:59 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c64270d287de33e0b6496e257486af9b"; logging-data="165370"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/Vw8bF4TItPdSeY61yQ+McwNk5D9iIL54=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:9tt5KPrPeEw7DPLQGGOYPFQupzY= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 5777 On 5/20/2024 12:53 PM, olcott wrote: > On 5/20/2024 2:47 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >> On 5/20/2024 12:45 PM, olcott wrote: >>> On 5/20/2024 2:41 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>> On 5/20/2024 12:37 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>> On 5/20/2024 2:32 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>>> On 5/20/2024 12:23 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>>>> On 5/20/2024 12:15 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>> On 5/20/2024 1:35 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 5/20/2024 10:20 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 5/20/2024 12:15 PM, Bonita Montero wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Am 20.05.2024 um 18:01 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/20/2024 10:16 AM, Bonita Montero wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 20.05.2024 um 16:47 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is a simple question about the behavior of C functions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This group's purpose is the C/C++ language. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Your question is generic to most languages and you're >>>>>>>>>>>>> not asking how to do that in C or how to improve that. >>>>>>>>>>>>> And you're asking the same thing for years. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes I am very persistent. I keep asking until >>>>>>>>>>>> I get an answer. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> After some time you should recognize you're doing circles. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I am asking a straight forward question that people >>>>>>>>>> keep ignoring it has nothing to do will my circles: >>>>>>>>>> Ask until answered stops when answered. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Think of your halt decider running a black box program. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *It is not even a halt decider in this post it is merely a >>>>>>>> simulator* >>>>>>> [...] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Humm... So, what is your main point? You cannot decide if a >>>>>>> program will halt, _unless_ you code the test program? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Can I create a program that runs in your simulator? Can I call >>>>>> into a TRNG or something? Create a race condition on purpose? >>>>>> Check this out: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.c++/c/7u_rLgQe86k/m/fYU9SnuAFQAJ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The entire scope of my 20 year primary research only has >>>>> the scope of the conventional HP counter-example inputs. >>>>> >>>>> I can do this at the Turing Machine level too, yet off-topic >>>>> for this group. >>>>> >>>> >>>> So, you do not care if the halting problem can be applied to a >>>> "black box" program? What am I missing here? I must be missing >>>> something important, right? >>> >>> I do not want to discuss things that are off-topic for this >>> group. I don't want to discuss anything with anyone until >>> after my claim about the execution trace has been validated. >>> >>> I am using categorically exhaustive reasoning that can work >>> through every possibility that can possibly exist in a feasible >>> amount of time as long as the category is very very narrow. >>> >>> Enlarge the category a tiny little bit and then the time >>> becomes infeasible. >>> >>> THIS IS THE CATEGORY >>> *D correctly simulated by H never reaches its own line 06 and halts* >>> >>> >> >> How can I create a program that runs in your simulator? > That is another different category of question. It's been a while since I have used x86 assembly language. But, I can get back into it, if needed... Here is some of my older code: https://web.archive.org/web/20060214112539/http://appcore.home.comcast.net/appcore/src/cpu/i686/ac_i686_masm_asm.html > > If I was not diagnosed with POD24 and instead was 100% totally > immortal I could not tolerate the change-the-subject rebuttal > and prove my point in finite time. > > *Validation of POD24 as a robust early clinical end point of* > *poor survival in FL from 5225 patients on 13 clinical trials* > https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34614146/ >