Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2024 18:06:15 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 200 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 03:06:16 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="216a9a687476d70f34477f632a803420"; logging-data="1305543"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19IKGRXeoT8f0ea5hP5bS9gg5tw+ES7CMo=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:XabDKqnW+RZDn4QLDoajXN7wZww= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-CA Bytes: 9228 On 2024-04-16 15:25, Hank Rogers wrote: > Alan wrote: >> On 2024-04-15 22:09, Anonymous wrote: >>> Alan wrote: >>>> On 2024-04-14 19:48, Anonymous wrote: >>>>> Alan wrote: >>>>>> On 2024-04-13 22:23, Anonymous wrote: >>>>>>> Chris wrote: >>>>>>>> Anonymous wrote: >>>>>>>>> Chris wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Anonymous wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Anonymous wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anonymous wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Java Jive wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 04/04/2024 01:58, Hank Rogers wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So is trump. They are much alike and have never done >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything wrong. Ever. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neither has ever committed a crime or screwed a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> customer or business partner. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is provably untrue, in that Trump has already lost >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two civil cases, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wherein one of which a jury found him to be a rapist  - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in most civilised >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people's view, that is both committing a crime and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screwing someone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Losing a civil case is not the same as a criminal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conviction. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The claim was the he "never done anything wrong". Losing a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> civil case is a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear case of doing something wrong. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> No it's not. Anyone can sue anyone for anything. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> And? If the court finds against you you've legally done >>>>>>>>>>>> something wrong. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Not morally. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Are you saying that Trump has never done anything morally >>>>>>>>>> wrong? You've >>>>>>>>>> completely lost any sense of reality. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> At the very least he cheated on two of his wives. He sexually >>>>>>>>>> assaulted one >>>>>>>>>> woman (probably more) and he defrauded several banks and the IRS. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If he legitimately "knife to the throat" raped women, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What the fuck does that mean? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> then why wasn't >>>>>>>>> he criminally prosecuted? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Like you said yourself the US system doesn't provide justice, >>>>>>>> especially >>>>>>>> against rich, powerful men. Sexual assault hasn't been treated >>>>>>>> well by the >>>>>>>> CJS for a long time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well, you probably think Jacqueline Coakley was telling the >>>>>>> truth. LOL! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Forget accusations, most rape _convictions_ are false. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If he defrauded the IRS, was he criminally >>>>>>>>> charged? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not yet. Here's hoping... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The legal system very rarely has anything to do with >>>>>>>>>>> actual justice. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In the US, I agree. You've got the system you all wanted. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Also the state DA isn't just anyone and fraud or defamation >>>>>>>>>>>> aren't just >>>>>>>>>>>> anything. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If you or I defrauded a bank or insurance company we'd >>>>>>>>>>>> rightly be >>>>>>>>>>>> prosecuted. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Prosecuted under criminal statutes, not sued under civil. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Why? Civil law is just as important. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Standards of proof in the civil system is not as rigorous as that >>>>>>>>> in the criminal system. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Still evidence of wrongdoing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why should it be any different for Trump? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Nobody is saying it should be. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That's not true. You're saying he's done nothing wrong and >>>>>>>>>> shouldn't face >>>>>>>>>> trial. The courts should decide. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone is NYC has known for decades what kind of crook >>>>>>>>>>>>>> he is. If it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't for the hundreds of millions of dollars he got from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fred he'd just >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be pretty street criminal. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Further, he faces 91 further criminal charges in 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separate cases, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All politically-motivated persecutions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lol. I love how the right are strong on law and order >>>>>>>>>>>>>> until one of their >>>>>>>>>>>>>> own is found wanting in that dept. Then it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "persecution". Hypocrites the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How people for that, I don't know. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I want order. After that, we can have law. Instead, we have >>>>>>>>>>>>> politically- >>>>>>>>>>>>> motivated persecutions for made-up crimes, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Federal law and election law are made up now, are they? The >>>>>>>>>>>> right were >>>>>>>>>>>> desperate for Biden to be arrested for exactly the same as >>>>>>>>>>>> Trump. Again, >>>>>>>>>>>> it's one rule for you and different rules for others. That's >>>>>>>>>>>> not how fair >>>>>>>>>>>> society works. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> There are countless laws that literally invent crimes and >>>>>>>>>>> proscribe >>>>>>>>>>> punishments when there is no concrete harm being done to >>>>>>>>>>> anyone or >>>>>>>>>>> anything. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Countless, really? Examples. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Notable you didn't answer this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All laws that punish mere possession of firearms by peaceable >>>>>>> men, for one, >>>>>>> if you really want to get into that debate. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also, Bragg hasn't told us what underlying felony Trump allegedly >>>>>>> committed. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sure he has. >>>>> >>>>> No he hasn't. >>>>> >>>>>> It is literally in the indictments. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll give you one example: >>>>>> >>>>>> 'THE GRAND JURY OF THE COUNTY OF NEW YORK, by this indictment, >>>>>> accuses the defendant of the crime of FALSIFYING BUSINESS RECORDS >>>>>> IN THE FIRST DEGREE , in violation of Penal Law §175.10, >>>>>> committed as follows: The defendant, in the County of New York and >>>>>> elsewhere, on or about February 14, 2017, with intent to defraud >>>>>> and intent to commit another crime and aid and conceal the ========== REMAINDER OF ARTICLE TRUNCATED ==========