Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Thomas Koenig Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: actual text in programming languages, Unicode in strings Date: Tue, 21 May 2024 05:08:08 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: Injection-Date: Tue, 21 May 2024 07:08:08 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5a882775c5e045fc52c85cb352fc148c"; logging-data="480438"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/SBR5DayIED+xVKGh0Os0igA2I2AVt5UA=" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Fnj7BjIwgoysgOBdHtrypiQxzOg= Bytes: 1751 John Levine schrieb: > It appears that Thomas Koenig said: >>John Levine schrieb: >> >>> COBOL is older than Fortran, >> >>Certainly not (unless you mean "Fortran" in the Fortran 90+ sense). >>FORTRAN was released 1957, and the first Cobol specification >>appears to have been passed in 1960. > > I was thinking of Flow-Matic which is arguably older than > Fortran and is where most of COBOL came from. Grace Hopper > was entirely familar with mathematical notation and said that > Univac's business customers didn't like it. Seems that Flow-Matic became publically available in 1958 and was "substantially complete" by 1959, so FORTRAN came earlier.