Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: Two dozen people were simply wrong --- Try to prove otherwise --- pinned down Date: Fri, 31 May 2024 17:54:26 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 61 Message-ID: References: <87y17smqnq.fsf@bsb.me.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2024 00:54:26 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5617c6a52e82e3edb2307f1199229213"; logging-data="2558776"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18dL3uaz0srCT0m6Ks9qLFI" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:u/jxsHD2vuk7eNe4gu5PjC+yTtQ= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4208 On 5/31/2024 5:46 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 5/31/24 6:08 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 5/31/2024 4:36 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 5/31/24 10:10 AM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 5/31/2024 6:16 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 5/30/24 11:27 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> Try and show how HH using an x86 emulator can correctly emulate >>>>>> the following x86 machine code such that DD reaches its own >>>>>> machine address 00001c47. >>>>> >>>>> Why should I, since that isn't what I was saying. >>>>> >>>> >>>> *To me that looks like you know that* >>>> *you have been busted in a lie and are backing down* >>> >>> no, YOU are LYING RIGHT HERE AND NOW. >>> >>> Prove that I said that the simulation by HH made it there, or admit >>> to being a DAMNED LIAR. >>> >>> What I have been saying is the the DIRECT EXDCUTION of DD, and the >>> CORRECT (and complete) simulation of the input to HH by an actual UTM >>> will get there. >>> >> >> That has always been the dishonest dodge strawman deception >> CHANGE-THE-SUBJECT fake rebuttal regarding >> the behavior of DD correctly simulated by pure function HH. > > But it is your talking about the "correctly simulated by HH" that is the > dishonest dodge, Try and show how HH using an x86 emulator can correctly emulate the following x86 machine code such that DD reaches its own machine address 00001c47. _DD() [00001c22] 55 push ebp [00001c23] 8bec mov ebp,esp [00001c25] 51 push ecx [00001c26] 8b4508 mov eax,[ebp+08] [00001c29] 50 push eax ; push DD 1c22 [00001c2a] 8b4d08 mov ecx,[ebp+08] [00001c2d] 51 push ecx ; push DD 1c22 [00001c2e] e80ff7ffff call 00001342 ; call HH [00001c33] 83c408 add esp,+08 [00001c36] 8945fc mov [ebp-04],eax [00001c39] 837dfc00 cmp dword [ebp-04],+00 [00001c3d] 7402 jz 00001c41 [00001c3f] ebfe jmp 00001c3f [00001c41] 8b45fc mov eax,[ebp-04] [00001c44] 8be5 mov esp,ebp [00001c46] 5d pop ebp [00001c47] c3 ret Size in bytes:(0038) [00001c47] -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer