Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Real Bev Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 21:11:19 -0700 Organization: None, as usual Lines: 99 Message-ID: References: <6m47fkxdng.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2024 06:11:22 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3d5b82ea4beda1268e5f610ef4f6bedd"; logging-data="2881154"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18M7yqIugUG8gE1Ym1iNR4PDYoyv4n5WVw=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0 Thunderbird/68.12.1 Cancel-Lock: sha1:gxmY/5NLlGJ9kydTwMaMOxoU5B8= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 5228 On 4/18/24 3:46 PM, Your Name wrote: > On 2024-04-18 19:13:09 +0000, The Real Bev said: >> On 4/18/24 2:11 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 2024-04-18 08:20, The Real Bev wrote: >>>> On 4/17/24 10:18 AM, Alan wrote: >>>>> On 2024-04-17 10:05, The Real Bev wrote: >>>>>> On 4/15/24 11:48 PM, Chris wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Pre-empirically carrying a gun is not "self-defence". Its weaknes= s. >>>>>>> Billions of people are quite capable of not becoming a victim wit= hout >>>>>>> needing guns for "self-defence". >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Yes, screaming I AM NOT A VICTIM at the thug with a knife will >>>= >=20 >>>>>> definitely send him on his way abashed and save Granny from being = >>>>=20 >>>>>> harmed. Or perhaps you were thinking of the umbrella with the >>>>= =20 >>>>>> sharpened tip? >>>>>=20 >>>>> You still haven't explained why the US has so many more deaths than= >>>>> other countries similar to it. >>>>>> I have no idea why.=A0 Do you?=A0 Perhaps we are just violent peop= le. >>>>>> Given that this is true, how do we best protect ourselves when law= >>=20 >>>>>> enforcement is too far away to be protective? >>>> The same way as other countries do: by banning weapons. You do not l= et >>> violent people easy access to weapons. >>=20 >> Like Mexico... >>=20 >> Knives, rebar, baseball bats, tennis rackets, 2x4s... >=20 > With the possible exception of the cars, all of those personal > 'weapons' are impossible to use to kill and injure lots of people in a > short space of time ... unlike a moron with a (semi)automatic gun > spraying bullets around. Black swan event. Other ways of mass killing that don't involve guns.=20 Some think that the Islamist anti-Westerners have already won just=20 because they made us change the way we live, travel etc. >>>> A few nights ago a guy pulled a knife on a woman, forced her to driv= e=20 >>>> to >> a different location and raped her.=A0 This happened a few blo= cks=20 >>>> away. >> What should she have done? >>>> Same as in any modern and evolved country. >>=20 >> Bend over and smile? >>=20 >> She was sitting in her car in a restaurant parking lot at 8:30 at nigh= t=20 >> in a "safe" neighborhood. He jumped into her car. Perhaps she should= =20 >> have locked her doors, but that's alien behavior here. >=20 > A lot of common sense things are alien behaviour in America: owning > guns, not wearing seatbelts, electing lunatics as the President, not > knowing how to spell the words like "colour" or "aluminium", ... :-\ The Swiss and possibly the Israelis are required to own guns. That's=20 not the problem. I think we USE seatbelts most of the time. And if you = mean Trump, there's a lot to be said about having a loose cannon for a=20 president. A little less trouble in the world during his tenure,=20 wouldn't you say? And we've simplified spelling in order to conserve=20 ink, space and pixels. A GOOD thing! >> If someone threatens you with ANY weapon they have forfeited their=20 >> right to decent treatment. Perhaps no weapon is required if they are = >> physically threatening. We should all be allowed to protect our own=20 >> lives. Period. >=20 > The number of people who successfully "protect their own lives" by > owning a gun is FAR FAR FAR outweighed by the number of innocent people= > killed or seriuously injured by a looney with a gun. >=20 > You've got junior school kids "solving" their arguments by shooting > people. The country needs to obtain some form of common sense. Far fewer mass shootings by loonies than one-on-one or gang squabbles.=20 If it weren't for the innocent bystanders, the gang squabbles might=20 actually be a plus. Mainly, I think our elected officials are too stupid or venal to be=20 allowed to even think about changing the Constitution. --=20 Cheers, Bev "...so she told me it was either her or the ham radio, over."