Path: ...!news-out.netnews.com!postmaster.netnews.com!us1.netnews.com!not-for-mail X-Trace: DXC=:[i>4aT2E1Sa9Q\kQUSJoQHWonT5<]0T]Q;nb^V>PUfV5[gZBW6J?L\b4Xlnec8YjTP8GZogC^WjB\Oa:X5b?f8X X-Complaints-To: support@blocknews.net Date: Sat, 25 May 2024 15:46:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Betterbird (Windows) From: DFS Subject: Re: Do MicrosoftsCopilot+ PCs Require Linux? Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy References: <664e55ed$0$8491$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 116 Message-ID: <66524006$0$1258327$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 X-Trace: 1716666374 reader.netnews.com 1258327 127.0.0.1:41107 Bytes: 4166 On 5/23/2024 9:38 AM, Tyrone wrote: > On May 23, 2024 at 7:58:35 AM EDT, "Andrzej Matuch" wrote: > >> There is no benefit to a corporation looking to have a monopoly to use >> UNIX. Microsoft will hold onto the Windows core for as long as they >> can, and if they replace it, they will likely do so with a rewritten >> Windows core. > > Microsoft has no monopoly. On anything. True. And they never did. > It is to their benefit to retire Windows. heh! Might as well toss your application for membership to the MS Board of Directors in the trash. > Windows usage is shrinking, and has been for the last 14 years. Where else does it go from nearly 100%? (I can't find it any longer, but I recall seeing somewhere online that Windows reached 97.5% desktop market share) > Monopolies don't go from 95% of the market to 70%. I thought you were slinging bullshit, but 2 sites I trust confirm approx those numbers. 1st datasource https://analytics.usa.gov/data/live/os.csv summary of raw data downloaded at 1:50pm today # OS Site Visits (last 30 days) ------------------------------------- 1 iOS 564742856 2 Windows 540394858 3 Android 309334579 4 Macintosh 174235737 5 Linux 42301343 6 Chrome OS 31815361 7 (not set) 1388130 8 (other) 894191 9 Win32 159772 10 Tizen 29973 12 Fuchsia 22361 13 OS/2 16369 14 Firefox OS 12761 15 Playstation 4 12249 16 FreeBSD 4021 17 NIX 3758 18 BlackBerry 3468 19 SymbianOS 791 20 Windows Phone 521 21 OpenBSD 265 22 Sony 243 23 NetBSD 172 ------------------------ Total 1,665,373,779 ------------------------ desktop/laptop (11): Windows, Macintosh, Linux, Chrome OS, Win32, OS/2, FreeBSD, Unix, NIX, OpenBSD, NetBSD phone/mobile (6): iOS, Android, Blackberry, FirefoxOS, SymbianOS, WinPhone other (6): Tizen, Fuschia, Playstation, Sony, (other), (not set) One entry in the raw data was blank. I assigned (not set). Results for desktop/laptop: OS Visits % Total ---------------------------------- Windows 540554630 68.5% (incl Win32) Macintosh 174235737 22.1% Linux 42301343 5.4% Chrome OS 31815361 4.0% OS/2 16369 0.0021% FreeBSD 4021 0.0005% UNIX 3758 0.0005% OpenBSD 265 0.0000% NetBSD 172 0.0000% ---------------------------------- Total 788,931,656 100% Last time I used that source - 4 years ago - it had Linux at 1.6%. 2nd datasource https://analytics.wikimedia.org/dashboards/browsers/#desktop-site-by-os/os-family-timeseries May 12 2024 Windows 62.3% MacOS 17.5% Other 15.6% Linux 2.2% From 10-15 years ago, big Windows drop, big Mac gain, Linux up significantly depending on source.