Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Andrzej Matuch Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: OT: The "vaccine" that just keeps on giving. Date: Mon, 27 May 2024 08:46:53 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 58 Message-ID: References: <66535b29$0$6550$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 27 May 2024 14:46:57 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6babf353eeecdfc0c2aeb1a910fdae9f"; logging-data="47602"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19kRLB8T/X7+Mv7aT6wHNSlYnSw61Laypk=" User-Agent: Betterbird (Windows) Cancel-Lock: sha1:KlizlIDa3rbAV7oiY4QUWuxQL58= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4044 On 2024-05-27 8:17 a.m., RonB wrote: > On 2024-05-27, Andrzej Matuch wrote: >> On 2024-05-26 3:17 p.m., vallor wrote: >>> On Sun, 26 May 2024 12:11:14 -0400, Andrzej Matuch wrote >>> in : >>> >>>> On 2024-05-26 11:54 a.m., DFS wrote: >>>>> On 5/25/2024 5:57 PM, Andrzej Matuch wrote: >>>>>> That's how you know it works. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Grayson Murray's parents confirm he 'took his own life'" >>>> >>>> Then I wonder what the illness was. It's a sad thing to see such a young >>>> man condemn himself to Hell through suicide. >>> >>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism. >>> >>> You should consider why you would think such a hateful thing, >>> and if you're honest with yourself, be ashamed. >> >> Catholic teaching is clear about the consequences of suicide or >> euthanasia. I also don't believe that the people who advocate for >> abortion and simultaneously think that euthanasia or suicide is neat >> have any kind of grasp on morality. > > But Catholicism also teaches us not to judge whether someone is damned or > not — that's up to God. For a sin to be mortal it requires that it be a > grave matter (check), with full knowledge and deliberate consent. Grayson > Murray was a Christian, but I don't know if he was Catholic (and even if he > was Catholic, Vatican II Catholicism does a terrible job of teaching the > doctrines of the Faith now). It's questionable whether he had full knowledge > and deliberately consented to what he might not have known was a mortal sin. > And, if he suffered mental health issues, it's questionable whether he was > even able to give deliberate consent with full knowledge. If you have mental > health issues you're probably not going to be able to think clearly about > the consequences of your actions. > > I would definitely pray for his soul. God is not a legalistic Pharisee. > > As for the "damnation doctrine" being "spiritual terrorism," it's actually > not. It's how people become cognizant to the fact that there are > consequences for their evil actions. Without justice there can be no mercy. > And mercy is not hard to obtain. It does require humility, however. The > cardinal sin of Satan was pride. I'm not judging him for his act; I'm simply pointing out that it was a bad one considering what the consequences are. What I am most interested in discovering is what his illness was, and whether it was something brought on by a certain "safe and effective" product. -- Andrzej (Andre) Matuch TG: @AndrzejMatuch Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.