Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!pasdenom.info!from-devjntp Message-ID: JNTP-Route: news2.nemoweb.net JNTP-DataType: Article Subject: Re: how References: Newsgroups: sci.math JNTP-HashClient: phI1ZSJblBU_409q48I-UOc-IuA JNTP-ThreadID: 4YLc1knY-8u5i_KQ0oWqy89D7aY JNTP-Uri: http://news2.nemoweb.net/?DataID=tKdBVF_PcM-54mh18TYIRcjGQHQ@jntp User-Agent: Nemo/0.999a JNTP-OriginServer: news2.nemoweb.net Date: Tue, 30 Apr 24 13:00:42 +0000 Organization: Nemoweb JNTP-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/124.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 Injection-Info: news2.nemoweb.net; posting-host="411700afb7b8328da2036d06eb2cf7416c98f7b6"; logging-data="2024-04-30T13:00:42Z/8837309"; posting-account="217@news2.nemoweb.net"; mail-complaints-to="julien.arlandis@gmail.com" JNTP-ProtocolVersion: 0.21.1 JNTP-Server: PhpNemoServer/0.94.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-JNTP-JsonNewsGateway: 0.96 From: WM Bytes: 3063 Lines: 42 Le 27/04/2024 à 19:38, Richard Damon a écrit : > On 4/27/24 10:54 AM, WM wrote: >> Le 26/04/2024 à 21:10, Richard Damon a écrit : >>> On 4/26/24 1:06 PM, WM wrote: >>>> Le 26/04/2024 à 04:08, Richard Damon a écrit : >>>>> On 4/25/24 3:51 PM, WM wrote: >>>>>> Le 24/04/2024 à 20:08, FromTheRafters a écrit : >>>>>>> WM explained : >>>>>>>> Le 24/04/2024 à 12:49, FromTheRafters a écrit : >>>>>>>>> Richard Damon wrote : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Of course, if you logic tries to make that transfinite value >>>>>>>>>> finite because that is all it can handle, your system just >>>>>>>>>> blows up in your face. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> IMO, it might be best not to think of it as a value at all. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cantor called it a number. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A number representing an order type. >>>>>> >>>>>> like 2 or 5. >>>>> >>>>> No, because 2 or 5 were FINITE numbers, not transfinite numbers. >>>> >>>> Learn what an order type is according to Cantor. >>>> >>> Maybe you should. "Order Types" are not "Numbers" but properties of >>> how you order the set of numbers. >> >> Your ignorance is actually unlimited. >> Cantor created and defined these notions: Den Ordnungstypus einer >> wohlgeordneten Menge F nennen wir die ihr zukommende "Ordnungszahl". > Right, and 2 or 5 are not assigned as a number for an ordinal type. Your ignorance is actually unlimited but your capability to learn is zero. > There is no set with an Ordinal Type of 2 or 5. What are (1, 2) and (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) or (17, 28, 55, 67, 100)? Regards, WM