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Subject: Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 18:56:22 +1300
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On 2024-04-01 00:55:13 +0000, Tamborino said:
> 
> This is the common misunderstanding with both RCS in general and Apple's
> update in particular. RCS is not end-to-end encrypted.
> 
> Yet, for conversations between Google Messages users, end-to-end encryption
> is now enabled on your Android phone by default.
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2024/03/30/new-apple-iphone-16-pro-max-and-ios-18-leak-googles-imessage-warning/ 
> 
> 
> So unlike iMessaging between iPhone users or Google Messaging between
> Android users, or more importantly WhatsApping between iPhone and Android
> users, RCS between iPhone and Android will not have that level of security.
> 
> This is critical because it's the issue the DOJ highlighted in its lawsuit:
> "Apple is willing to make the iPhone less secure and less private... Text
> messages sent from iPhones to Android phones are unencrypted as a result of
> Apple's conduct. If Apple wanted to, Apple could allow iPhone users to send
> encrypted messages to Android users while still using iMessage on their
> iPhone, which would instantly improve the privacy and security of iPhone
> and other smartphone users."

Yet more proof that the US DOJ has no clue what they're talking about.  :-\

A. Apple doesn't even use RCS ... yet! It is rumoured to be coming in
   later this year ("in the fall" if you believe a Google post)

B. Apple messages are end-to-end encrypted, at least between Apple
   devices using Apple's messaging app (for other apps it is up to
   their developers, not Apple):

   "Your iMessage and FaceTime conversations are encrypted end-to-end,
    so they can't be read while they're sent between devices."