Path: ...!uucp.uio.no!fnord.no!news1.firedrake.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Why Python When There Is Perl? Date: 26 Mar 2024 03:45:01 GMT Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <17be420c4f90bfc7$63225$1585792$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <17be75acfaf8f0f4$2017$3384359$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <17bebbae334656b9$74345$2906873$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <17bf321f9c15028e$2$2218499$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <17bf5ce92e8c43b4$672$1351842$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net 9hVrfvVe7Lxq9XQm0pYf/QdznfTx5/EoviZepMmojG3YacJ9AA Cancel-Lock: sha1:anTS713AsJYzlzeiI7ogiG/FyYc= sha256:2t2GP2wbJc7q1MCIwy8o4r8I8CGw58B6oJGjyJ6827c= User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Bytes: 3010 On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 18:41:37 -0500, Physfitfreak wrote: > What did Greece have?... Did they sit and play with their balls and this > led them to take the next step and devise Euclidean Geometry? Do you see > the picture? Written history aside (which is always full of partiality > and bullshit), the need for math must've arisen elsewhere, either in > Egypt, or in Iran, or in India. Written history and historical fiction would overlap on a Venn diagram. Was the Pythagorean Theorem really his? Did he really have a dim view of beans? Was he an Ionian? And in the other corner we have Zeno, another one who exists mostly in hearsay. His paradoxes fascinated me as a kid. Much later I found parallels in Nagarjuna: Motion does not begin in what has moved, Nor does it begin in what has not moved, Nor does it begin in what is moving. In what, then, does motion begin? So much guesswork and invention by later authors. Yesterday my wandering mind took me to the Amber Road. Several sources concluded Tutankhamen's bling contained amber from the Baltics. That would be about 1300 BCE. The Nordic Bronze Age lasted from c. 2000 to 500 BCE and engaged in a brisk import/export trade. No written records but physical evidence in the amber artifacts found in Greece and adjoining areas that didn't walk there themselves. Cultural similarities with the people of the Rigveda have been suggested but then you're getting into the whole Indo-European thing. Yeah, it might have been the damn farmers. If the DNA fairy tales are to be believed I'm descended from hunter-gatherers who were doing just fine before the farmers arrived.