Path: ...!news.nobody.at!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2024 14:11:48 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2024 18:11:49 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="260c9c3a415c1f93a62d9079ecf3f3b9"; logging-data="1613185"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+iI599nkhklgby7WYg0M4xFM1xuNCC2H4=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:AVVNAuArW4c1qR5WSu3GC3lQLak= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-CA Bytes: 2512 On 2024-04-05 05:42, Arno Welzel wrote: > Tamborino, 2024-04-01 02:55: > >> This is the common misunderstanding with both RCS in general and Apple's >> update in particular. RCS is not end-to-end encrypted. > > RCS *is* end-to-end encrypted. But this is not mandatory, so using > unencrypted connections is possible. But the Google messaging app in > Android will show you if the recipient has RCS and also if the > connection is encrypted. > Incorrect. RCS as implemented by Google has end-to-end encryption. The RCS standard does not have encryption as a part of it. >> >> Yet, for conversations between Google Messages users, end-to-end encryption >> is now enabled on your Android phone by default. >> https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2024/03/30/new-apple-iphone-16-pro-max-and-ios-18-leak-googles-imessage-warning/ >> >> So unlike iMessaging between iPhone users or Google Messaging between >> Android users, or more importantly WhatsApping between iPhone and Android >> users, RCS between iPhone and Android will not have that level of security. > > But this is not the fault of RCS. It is actually. Apple is not prepared to adopt Google's encryption, and given that Google can't be trust with your privacy (Google Chrome sweeping up information while in incognito mode, anyone?), can you blame Apple?