Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 15:53:28 +0000 From: john larkin Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Optocoupler datasheets Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 08:53:28 -0700 Message-ID: <1cje5j12mj459mthl2mve04s8dnpolgsr8@4ax.com> References: <66574685$0$2363143$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 35 X-Trace: sv3-3rW1KcsZYq/rjOnCf7wRK82xAb6DedRZsrnPivs+vBSXzNCwDsYvLvnYfVLHxpKwvYUXn+k4isxDTrT!xzvgHSRLJoLElMpI43UWEwisbYUH1eNpX5O47HkxQ8IFMkVbk0QefCiusEs1pUZxMwU6y4h+EH03!ppF0Iw== X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 2507 On Wed, 29 May 2024 11:15:17 -0400, bitrex wrote: >Optocoupler datasheets seem like kind of a mess, I try not to use them >too often in situations where there's any kind of power budget because >other than "shove some relatively huge current through the LED like 5-10 >mA" it's hard to know what you can get away with. > >A light load on the transistor side will definitely reduce the forward >current required (and of course slow the speed to a crawl) but who can >say by how much while still ensuring the thing will turn on sufficiently >to saturate the output? > >The CTR varies widely from process variation, varies with temperature, >varies with collector emitter voltage, varies with forward current, and >the data sheets are full of caveats like "At I_f < 1 mA, note CTR >variation may increase" and "Graphs are representative, not indicative >of actual performance." ???? Keeps the amateurs away. > >Any suggestions for how to approach methodically/mathematically >selecting drive current would be appreciated, thank you! ("Don't bother" >a valid option) For on/off, use a logic coupler or an opto SSR. They have well defined input requirements. A dual transistor-type optocoupler makes a fun totem-pole logic coupler, with zero static power dissipation on the isolated side. It basically always swings rail-rail out and gets faster as LED side current goes up. Or spike that to save driver power.