Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Phil Hobbs Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Operating temperature derating Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2024 15:52:20 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2024 17:52:21 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="dde31e8fcaee81129ad102e6a34e48b9"; logging-data="4163795"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+Tw6okz7UdwmxVdeUEo16b" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:MgK+rh5WKpwT+Te2GkfI2h8ZpGI= sha1:8N4Ek8mEhOIgrh2cP7L7tg7q3N0= Bytes: 1914 Don Y wrote: > Presumably, one should feel comfortable using a device at the > published operating temperature extremes "forever". > > But, what sort of derating likely went into that specification > in the first place? Sad another way, how much *beyond* those > limits might want suspect you could operate the device? > > Varies by device and package, unfortunately. For example, running a plastic package above its glass transition will make the epoxy creep due to thermal expansion. There’s nothing much to make it creep back again on cooling. Cycles of that will eventually create voids, break bond wires, and so on. Clive, previously Syd, will have lots more. Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics