Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension). Date: 8 May 2024 23:04:34 GMT Lines: 57 Message-ID: References: <69ll3jhi08tml3m5cmhb3c6or82dd7vevb@4ax.com> <663b8caf$5$1258331$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net EmgUVAMth4jzKbhGhaHt2gvuRwMO6NZj42wNNsRM4914j+zg80 Cancel-Lock: sha1:kUMHkVhN2ZvyIxVHkP6mc/ARZLE= sha256:7U/d/C2xlMIim0aw3mWBxLy2MMQtU8CBfx5cchQuTWY= User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Bytes: 3057 On Wed, 8 May 2024 20:53:05 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Wed, 8 May 2024 10:31:12 -0400, DFS wrote: > >> "Compared to 2020, Linux and macOS popularity decreased by 5 percentage >> points each, while Windows usage has risen by 10 percentage points." >> >> Linux 63% >> Windows 58% >> macOS 25% >> BSD 2% >> Other 1% >> >> https://lp.jetbrains.com/python-developers-survey-2021/ > > Nothing newer? A lot of those trying to develop with Python on Windows > have probably given up by now. https://developers.arcgis.com/python/ If nothing else the GIS community is using it. It has pretty much replaced the C++/C# ArcObjects approach used through 10.8. Installing the Esri products installs Python, 2.7 for 10.8 and 3.9 for 11.x. That is only one use of Python on Windows. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/python/beginners It's interesting they recommend using WSL if you're going to be doing web development. I use node or angular for web development so I don't have any feeling for why that is. > > Also, on Linux, we have a wider choice of environments besides > JetBrains. The world is a little bigger than PyCharm and most of the environments are cross-platform. For years I used gVim on both Windows and Linux. I've tried PyCharm and Spyder and didn't really care for PyCharm. Spyder is installed with Anaconda if you go that route. Currently I use VSCode in conjunction with gVim, again cross-platform. I've used Thonny, mainly because it can handle boards like the Raspberry Pi Pico W plugged into a USB port but prefer VSCode with the MicroPython extension. I gave up on Eclipse a long time ago but I think some people still use it. I also was always underwhelmed by IDLE. I've used Jupyter. Notebooks are useful particularly for tutorials but I wouldn't consider it a real IDE. I prefer Linux overall but why you discount the use of Python on Windows escapes me. iirc the only problem I've run into was with PySide6 in the conda environment, which was easily solved by installing straight Python 3.12.