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Failed to connect to MySQL: (1203) User howardkn already has more than 'max_user_connections' active connectionsPath: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!fdn.fr!glou.org!news.glou.org!pi2.pasdenom.info!from-devjntp Message-ID: JNTP-Route: news2.nemoweb.net JNTP-DataType: Article Subject: Re: [SR] Their proper times will necessarily be equal References: Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity JNTP-HashClient: J9nGhB3WeHLHC0-a0FArZvDRupo JNTP-ThreadID: hnFC7-XWOr5HOfbF-3j-xq8SKd0 JNTP-Uri: http://news2.nemoweb.net/?DataID=T1j6QV8PeOz21d_Bm0LMJ2To8SE@jntp User-Agent: Nemo/0.999a JNTP-OriginServer: news2.nemoweb.net Date: Sun, 21 Apr 24 22:01:46 +0000 Organization: Nemoweb JNTP-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/124.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 Injection-Info: news2.nemoweb.net; posting-host="e8cbf2474b472b9bb79db3dccb6a856bc1d05409"; logging-data="2024-04-21T22:01:46Z/8826000"; posting-account="4@news2.nemoweb.net"; mail-complaints-to="julien.arlandis@gmail.com" JNTP-ProtocolVersion: 0.21.1 JNTP-Server: PhpNemoServer/0.94.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-JNTP-JsonNewsGateway: 0.96 From: Richard Hachel Bytes: 2617 Lines: 34 Le 21/04/2024 à 23:47, Python a écrit : > Oh come on! > > There are only two events involved! One for when the travelers > departs and another one when they meet again. > > Hence a SINGLE time elapsed between these two events, as seen in any > frame of reference. > > You seemed to have, at least, understood this recently. It appears > you don't. You are insufferable. Breathe in, exhale. Breathe. When Bella and Stella make their trip, they take the same amount of time. Everyone agrees on that. The calculated time is the same for all physicists in the world, French, American, German, Spanish, English, and even Richard Hachel. Here, 12,915 years old. I call this time improper time because it does not correspond to the proper time of the two rockets and in any system of relativistic Axelian or Minkowskian calculations. It goes without saying that it defines the time between the joint departure event of the two rockets and the joint arrival of the two rockets. We have entered into tautology there. R.H.