Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: piglet Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Optocoupler datasheets Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 15:56:18 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <66574685$0$2363143$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 17:56:18 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0216e50e50e15b37a1ad94534d62dd56"; logging-data="1279513"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/1IPvsXBiMZ+MuzcU2kTaZ" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:J2zTkpZE48HPlm5H8x/ft6+aATM= sha1:DOysPWeFn7xBb40Used2T+ZWaNA= Bytes: 2277 bitrex wrote: > Optocoupler datasheets seem like kind of a mess, I try not to use them > too often in situations where there's any kind of power budget because > other than "shove some relatively huge current through the LED like 5-10 > mA" it's hard to know what you can get away with. > > A light load on the transistor side will definitely reduce the forward > current required (and of course slow the speed to a crawl) but who can > say by how much while still ensuring the thing will turn on sufficiently > to saturate the output? > > The CTR varies widely from process variation, varies with temperature, > varies with collector emitter voltage, varies with forward current, and > the data sheets are full of caveats like "At I_f < 1 mA, note CTR > variation may increase" and "Graphs are representative, not indicative > of actual performance." ???? > > Any suggestions for how to approach methodically/mathematically > selecting drive current would be appreciated, thank you! ("Don't bother" > a valid option) > Why do you want to saturate the photo transistor? If you don’t you can get much higher speeds out of even jelly bean cheap couplers. Even without a base connection it is possible. -- piglet