Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: -hh Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Another tale of Windows idiocy: the mouse scroll wheel. Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 19:07:03 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 75 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2024 01:07:04 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a76d949f2d228eae9e68aa0d58989aa3"; logging-data="1316314"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/9tziuhNe0/cSstu8UO6lL4O5XS3yjOPc=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:wLxtTmflmj5bPuHeKaEhbtR3jHI= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4109 On 4/7/24 4:01 PM, Alan wrote: > On 2024-04-06 19:34, -hh wrote: >> On 4/2/24 11:20 AM, candycanearter07 wrote: >>> David Brooks wrote at 08:27 this Tuesday >>> (GMT): >>>> On 02/04/2024 01:45, Alan wrote: >>>>> I'm sitting here, forced to use a Windows desktop (and I'm remembering >>>>> all over how terribly UGLY Windows is) while I wait for migration to >>>>> complete on my new M3 MacBook Air, and I thought I would reverse the >>>>> scrolling direction on the mouse to be more like what I'm used to. >>>>> >>>>> Now, honestly, I'm quite adaptable as I work with lots of different >>>>> systems, and have to simply roll with whatever my client at any moment >>>>> uses, but... >>>>> >>>>> ...I assumed this would be an obvious control to have somewhere in the >>>>> broken mess that is Settings and Control Panel mouse settings. >>>>> >>>>> I opened Settings... >>>>> >>>>> ...checked the various things you change about the mouse there... >>>>> >>>>> ...and... ...nothing. Nothing useful to this case anyway. >>>>> >>>>> Then I remembered that Microsoft's settings for the mouse are >>>>> idiotically broken across two different interfaces, so I checked >>>>> Control >>>>> Panel... >>>>> >>>>> ...and still nothing. >>>>> >>>>> So I check online and would you look at that: >>>>> >>>>> The only solution to changing the scrolling direction of the mouse in >>>>> Windows is... >>>>> >>>>> ...TO CHANGE THE REGISTRY! >>>> >>>> I found this - it confirms what you claim! >>>> >>>> https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/reverse-mouse-wheel-scroll/657c4537-f346-4b8b-99f8-9e1f52cd94c2 >>>> >>>> It also provides a solution. >>> ... >>> >>> No way...that's actually insane. Even something as restricted as >>> ChromeOS provides that option in the settings. >> >> There's invariably going to be elements of any UI that aren't >> changeable (see car steering wheel for which way it turns), but within >> computer software there's far fewer actual physical restrictions. >> >> Overall, it is a "less freedom", but it also seems  likely that MS >> paid attention to how few users actually chose to invert the control >> of the wheel.  Wonder if anyone actually has user UI statistics on that? > > If MS paid attention how many people inverted a control they can only > invert on Windows, H? I think it really comes down to how many MS software developers actually want that feature for themselves, such that they'll DIY it (or put in the change request, etc). > Would that be a little bit like paying attention to the number of users > that used a mouse back when MS-DOS had no support for one? > > :-) > More like how Apple's Disk Utility abolished its ability to support RAID in one of the OSX updates ... and then was surprised that their tech-savvy customers screamed. -hh