Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news.in-chemnitz.de!news2.arglkargh.de!news.mixmin.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Anonymous Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2024 17:04:07 -0400 Organization: Mixmin Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2024 21:04:10 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: news.mixmin.net; posting-host="c4af4a3027e8317d29ea238d8aa6bb2f616aa3fc"; logging-data="1526296"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@mixmin.net" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 8420 Lines: 173 Alan wrote: > On 2024-04-15 22:09, Anonymous wrote: >> Alan wrote: >>> On 2024-04-14 19:48, Anonymous wrote: >>>> Alan wrote: >>>>> On 2024-04-13 22:23, Anonymous wrote: >>>>>> Chris wrote: >>>>>>> Anonymous wrote: >>>>>>>> Chris wrote: >>>>>>>>> Anonymous wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Anonymous wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Anonymous wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Java Jive wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 04/04/2024 01:58, Hank Rogers wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So is trump. They are much alike and have never done anything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong. Ever. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neither has ever committed a crime or screwed a customer or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> business partner. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is provably untrue, in that Trump has already lost two civil >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cases, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wherein one of which a jury found him to be a rapist  - in most >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> civilised >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people's view, that is both committing a crime and screwing someone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Losing a civil case is not the same as a criminal conviction. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The claim was the he "never done anything wrong". Losing a civil >>>>>>>>>>>>> case is a >>>>>>>>>>>>> clear case of doing something wrong. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> No it's not. Anyone can sue anyone for anything. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> And? If the court finds against you you've legally done something wrong. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Not morally. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Are you saying that Trump has never done anything morally wrong? You've >>>>>>>>> completely lost any sense of reality. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> At the very least he cheated on two of his wives. He sexually assaulted >>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>> woman (probably more) and he defrauded several banks and the IRS. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If he legitimately "knife to the throat" raped women, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What the fuck does that mean? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> then why wasn't >>>>>>>> he criminally prosecuted? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Like you said yourself the US system doesn't provide justice, especially >>>>>>> against rich, powerful men. Sexual assault hasn't been treated well by the >>>>>>> CJS for a long time. >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, you probably think Jacqueline Coakley was telling the truth. LOL! >>>>>> >>>>>> Forget accusations, most rape _convictions_ are false. >>>>>> >>>>>>>> If he defrauded the IRS, was he criminally >>>>>>>> charged? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not yet. Here's hoping... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The legal system very rarely has anything to do with >>>>>>>>>> actual justice. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In the US, I agree. You've got the system you all wanted. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Also the state DA isn't just anyone and fraud or defamation aren't just >>>>>>>>>>> anything. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If you or I defrauded a bank or insurance company we'd rightly be >>>>>>>>>>> prosecuted. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Prosecuted under criminal statutes, not sued under civil. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Why? Civil law is just as important. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Standards of proof in the civil system is not as rigorous as that >>>>>>>> in the criminal system. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Still evidence of wrongdoing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Why should it be any different for Trump? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nobody is saying it should be. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That's not true. You're saying he's done nothing wrong and shouldn't face >>>>>>>>> trial. The courts should decide. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone is NYC has known for decades what kind of crook he is. If it >>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't for the hundreds of millions of dollars he got from Fred >>>>>>>>>>>>> he'd just >>>>>>>>>>>>> be pretty street criminal. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Further, he faces 91 further criminal charges in 4 separate cases, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> All politically-motivated persecutions. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Lol. I love how the right are strong on law and order until one of >>>>>>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>>>>> own is found wanting in that dept. Then it's "persecution". >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hypocrites the >>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of them. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> How people for that, I don't know. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I want order. After that, we can have law. Instead, we have >>>>>>>>>>>> politically- >>>>>>>>>>>> motivated persecutions for made-up crimes, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Federal law and election law are made up now, are they? The right were >>>>>>>>>>> desperate for Biden to be arrested for exactly the same as Trump. Again, >>>>>>>>>>> it's one rule for you and different rules for others. That's not how >>>>>>>>>>> fair >>>>>>>>>>> society works. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There are countless laws that literally invent crimes and proscribe >>>>>>>>>> punishments when there is no concrete harm being done to anyone or >>>>>>>>>> anything. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Countless, really? Examples. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Notable you didn't answer this. >>>>>> >>>>>> All laws that punish mere possession of firearms by peaceable men, for one, >>>>>> if you really want to get into that debate. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, Bragg hasn't told us what underlying felony Trump allegedly committed. >>>>> >>>>> Sure he has. >>>> >>>> No he hasn't. >>>> >>>>> It is literally in the indictments. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'll give you one example: >>>>> >>>>> 'THE GRAND JURY OF THE COUNTY OF NEW YORK, by this indictment, accuses the >>>>> defendant of the crime of FALSIFYING BUSINESS RECORDS IN THE FIRST DEGREE , >>>>> in violation of Penal Law §175.10, committed as follows: The defendant, in >>>>> the County of New York and elsewhere, on or about February 14, 2017, with >>>>> intent to defraud and intent to commit another crime and aid and conceal >>>>> the commission thereof, made and caused a false entry in the business >>>>> records of an enterprise, to wit, an invoice from Michael Cohen dated >>>>> February 14, 2017, marked as a record of the Donald J. Trump Revocable >>>>> Trust, and kept and maintained by the Trump Organization.' >>>>> >>>>> That's a FELONY, doofus. >>>>> >>>>> There are 33 more listed there. >>>> >>>> Those are upgraded misdemeanors, because there is allegedly an UNDERLYING >>>> felony. Show us the UNDERLYING felony. >>> >>> You don't understand the law. >>> >>> There doesn't have to be an "underlying felony". >>> >>> There just has to be an underlying crime that the falsification was >>> undertaken in furtherance of. >> >> Fine, then what was the underlying crime? > ========== REMAINDER OF ARTICLE TRUNCATED ==========