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Failed to connect to MySQL: (1203) User howardkn already has more than 'max_user_connections' active connectionsPath: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: Two dozen people were simply wrong --- Try to prove otherwise --- pinned down Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2024 12:27:17 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2024 16:27:17 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2856056"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 4256 Lines: 57 On 6/1/24 12:13 PM, olcott wrote: > On 6/1/2024 10:56 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 6/1/24 11:30 AM, olcott wrote: >>> >>> *I will not discuss any other points with you until after you either* >>> (a) Acknowledge that DD correctly simulated by HH and ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ correctly >>>      simulated by embedded_H remain stuck in recursive simulation for >>>      1 to ∞ of correct simulation or >>> >>> (b) Correctly prove otherwise. >> >> And until you answer the question of what that actually means, I will >> reply WHO CARES. >> > > typedef int (*ptr)();  // ptr is pointer to int function in C > 00       int HH(ptr p, ptr i); > 01       int DD(ptr p) > 02       { > 03         int Halt_Status = HH(p, p); > 04         if (Halt_Status) > 05           HERE: goto HERE; > 06         return Halt_Status; > 07       } > 08 > 09       int main() > 10       { > 11         HH(DD,DD); > 12         return 0; > 13       } > > Every DD correctly simulated by any HH of the infinite set of HH/DD > pairs that match the above template never reaches past its own simulated > line 03 in 1 to ∞ steps of correct simulation of DD by HH. > > In this case HH is either a pure simulator that never halts or > HH is a pure function that stops simulating after some finite number > of simulated lines. The line count is stored in a local variable. > The pure function HH always returns the meaningless value of 56 > after it stops simulating. > So, still no answer, to teh question. I giuess that Mean YOU don't even know what you are asking, though it seems that now you are admitting that your HH doesn't actually ANSWER the question, so it isn't ACTUALL a decider for any function except the "56" mapping. I will repeat the question and until you answer the question of what that actually means, I will reply WHO CARES. DO you mean the simulation of the TEMPLATE DD, which means that we CAN'T simulate the call HH as we have no code past point to simulate, and thus your claim is just a LIE. Or, do you mean a given instance of HH simulating a given instance of DD, at which point we never have the 1 to infinte number of simulatons of THAT INPUT, so your claim is just a LIE.