Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 15:14:54 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 53 Message-ID: References: <6m47fkxdng.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2024 00:14:55 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="884bfce603d41a36906db8651ea9d4f4"; logging-data="2634012"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/MNC9WW0wwuaj6KUFTDfOepOyv7p8/8UE=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:0ndxj7yGFKCwsC5nvTfwtS3yDJo= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-CA Bytes: 3964 On 2024-04-18 12:13, The Real Bev wrote: > On 4/18/24 2:11 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2024-04-18 08:20, The Real Bev wrote: >>> On 4/17/24 10:18 AM, Alan wrote: >>>> On 2024-04-17 10:05, The Real Bev wrote: >>>>> On 4/15/24 11:48 PM, Chris wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Pre-empirically carrying a gun is not "self-defence". Its weakness. >>>>>> Billions of people are quite capable of not becoming a victim without >>>>>> needing guns for "self-defence". >>>>> >>>>> Yes, screaming I AM NOT A VICTIM at the thug with a knife will >>>>> definitely send him on his way abashed and save Granny from being >>>>> harmed. Or perhaps you were thinking of the umbrella with the >>>>> sharpened tip? >>>> >>>> You still haven't explained why the US has so many more deaths than >>>> other countries similar to it. >>> >>> I have no idea why.  Do you?  Perhaps we are just violent people. >>> >>> Given that this is true, how do we best protect ourselves when law >>> enforcement is too far away to be protective? >> >> The same way as other countries do: by banning weapons. You do not let >> violent people easy access to weapons. > > Like Mexico... > > Knives, rebar, baseball bats, tennis rackets, 2x4s... > >>> A few nights ago a guy pulled a knife on a woman, forced her to drive >>> to a different location and raped her.  This happened a few blocks >>> away. What should she have done? >> >> Same as in any modern and evolved country. > > Bend over and smile? > > She was sitting in her car in a restaurant parking lot at 8:30 at night > in a "safe" neighborhood.  He jumped into her car.  Perhaps she should > have locked her doors, but that's alien behavior here. > > If someone threatens you with ANY weapon they have forfeited their right > to decent treatment.  Perhaps no weapon is required if they are > physically threatening.  We should all be allowed to protect our own > lives.  Period. > So again, yes or no: Are you advocating that every person carries a firearm on his or her person at all times?