Path: ...!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2024 17:39:06 +0000 From: john larkin Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Students go after the hypocrites Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2024 10:39:06 -0700 Message-ID: References: <35ab3jdrch3u0ph0u996vc0l0advdc07m1@4ax.com> User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 72 X-Trace: sv3-bFSMcjJj1Y0q1qj+smR/oIKnCxphYUdY+2+rtYj/u9WVRvYCbuyMJFy4Pmo66YJHZ2k8hyba2DcOA9A!VaxbFSa6b6rlwNw+A18aW8lXhK7WdPzyO930kUev8NEtAbbk6l6ye9HKDHSKOQ/yWQPgKu6LusDd!9Uwhng== X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3976 On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 17:05:00 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom wrote: >On Sun, 02 Jun 2024 09:01:41 -0700, john larkin wrote: > >> On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 12:27:52 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom >> wrote: >> >>>On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 19:54:06 -0500, John S wrote: >>> >>>> On 5/31/2024 5:46 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 31 May 2024 14:59:03 -0500, John S wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Welcome to s.e.design.politics. Go to some other group for >>>>>> electronics design discussions. >>>>> >>>>> Just you wait for the run-up to November 5th! >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I don't do politics. So...what is your point in terms of electronics >>>> designs? >>> >>>My point is that every time there's been a presidential election, this >>>group becomes us.talk.politics and any discussion of electronic design >>>becomes off-topic and deprecated. >> >> It was declining anyhow. > >I don't believe so. Like you, I've been here for the best part of 30 years >and the s/n ratio's about the same now as it was then. > >> I think that people who can actually do component-level electronic >> design are becoming rare. Kids in college type more than they solder. >> I've had interns who are afraid of electricity and panic when I ask them >> to analyze a 2-resistor voltage divider. >> >> 10 volt battery feeding series 9K and 1K resistors. What's the voltage >> across the 1K? They stutter and it's hilarious. > >You're not telling me these people have an EE degree FFS?? Interns are usually 3rd or 4th year EE students. "Uhh, I don't remember that equation." A fun thing to do is to ask them about their senior EE project. I have another quick test, to whiteboard a simple NPN emitter follower. Intel is welcome to the ones that can't pass that! > >> I took a tour of the Cornell EE school, and I counted screens. I saw 23 >> computer screens and one oscilloscope. > >Oh dear. > >> If EE grads are any good, the semiconductor outfits scoop up the best. >> >> It takes no skill to rant endlessly about politics. The thing I like >> about circuit design is that it has to work and it doesn't take long to >> find out if it does. > >My dear fellow, you're just going to have to become accustomed to this >group moving over to politics increasingly over the next 5 months. AISI, >this forthcoming election will be absolutely *critical* to world peace and >I do wish more people would wake up to the peril we're in if Trump doesn't >win come November. There seems to be a trend for people to move from the left/right fringes, towards the independent center. In other words, to show less tribalism and a little common sense.