Path: ...!news.nobody.at!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: BCFD 36 Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: (Tears) Fads and Fallacies by Martin Gardner Date: Sun, 19 May 2024 17:43:08 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 44 Message-ID: References: <291t2jdqj2darsaed0c830lkro7crktd24@4ax.com> <56bt2j9lq757mj29jmf5kptfbm69adhupb@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 02:43:09 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="226e6bca17bca2d161de7478d112d821"; logging-data="3822698"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19dNNAAtHIm6r7gvRXGKaP5" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:b9pOuTxspuSQB6CXE1bo5RAnRlM= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3235 On 5/17/24 18:36, Dimensional Traveler wrote: > On 5/17/2024 12:07 PM, BCFD 36 wrote: >> On 5/17/24 07:41, Dimensional Traveler wrote: >>> On 5/17/2024 7:25 AM, Christian Weisgerber wrote: >>>> On 2024-05-17, Robert Carnegie wrote: >>>> >>>>> I wonder what a vaccine against sugar would do >>>>> to public health? >>>> >>>> I'll go out on a limb and say that you can't train the immune system >>>> against the common, simple, nutritionally relevant sugars. >>>> >>> Ya, you _really_ don't want a glucose vaccine.... >>> >> No, you don't. This could be called diabetes, where you literally >> can't use the glucose in your food. >> > A diabetic still processes glucose, just not as well.  A COMPLETE > inability to process glucose would cause death by starvation and there > wouldn't be any way to stop it. > A Type 1 diabetic does not produce insulin. Insulin allows glucose to be used by the body. When a diabetic stops producing insulin entirely or maybe just not enough of it, and blood sugar goes way up, the diabetic goes into ketoacidosis (not quite sure of the spelling). They get this sweet fruity smell, somewhat like Juicy Fruit Gum. The insulin they that they take allows them to process the glucose. Too much insulin will also cause problems, and a patient will go through several stages of insulin shock. In one of my first experiences with insulin shock, I saw the paramedics shoot a completely unconscious and barely breathing patient with a big ampule of glucose (or maybe dextrose) and she woke up not too much later, very out of it, but still alive. -- ---------------- Dave Scruggs Senior Software Engineer - Lockheed Martin, et. al (mostly Retired) Captain - Boulder Creek Fire (Retired) Board of Directors - Boulder Creek Fire Protection District (What was I thinking?)